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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 7854922" data-attributes="member: 6750235">There are differences in those classes.&nbsp; Those differences don't invalidate the points given.&nbsp; Those differences do highlight the fact that just because spell versatility can give access to any spell on the list it doesn't make one class into another.There's no difference in claiming the party can rest 24 hours so the ranger can swap in locate objects or water breathing when the wizard might not have the relevant spell in his or her spell book.&nbsp; The only significant difference is that sorcerers and wizards share more spells than rangers and wizards.&nbsp; Given that the argument was the ability to swap spells steps on toes and wizards and not the spells themselves it's still an ability given to rangers under the same rules.A ranger can swap the entire spell list in downtime too but a sorcerer or bard can never have access to the full range of over 3 dozen exclusive wizard spells.&nbsp; If the mechanic is the issue for sorcerers because it's too similar to spell prep swapping the principle applies to rangers.&nbsp; If the difference in the spell list applies to rangers then the same principle applies to sorcerers because wizard list is far more comprehensive.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 7854922, member: 6750235"] There are differences in those classes. Those differences don't invalidate the points given. Those differences do highlight the fact that just because spell versatility can give access to any spell on the list it doesn't make one class into another. There's no difference in claiming the party can rest 24 hours so the ranger can swap in locate objects or water breathing when the wizard might not have the relevant spell in his or her spell book. The only significant difference is that sorcerers and wizards share more spells than rangers and wizards. Given that the argument was the ability to swap spells steps on toes and wizards and not the spells themselves it's still an ability given to rangers under the same rules. A ranger can swap the entire spell list in downtime too but a sorcerer or bard can never have access to the full range of over 3 dozen exclusive wizard spells. If the mechanic is the issue for sorcerers because it's too similar to spell prep swapping the principle applies to rangers. If the difference in the spell list applies to rangers then the same principle applies to sorcerers because wizard list is far more comprehensive. [/QUOTE]

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