Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
UA Spell Versatility: A deeper dive
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7855008" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>did you not read the section you were pointing at enough to realize that it's talking about hirelings?</p><p></p><p></p><p>You do realize that PCs and NPCs don't follow all of the same rules</p><p></p><p>You accurately note that an archmage's spellbook might sell for a notable amount, but the fact that people think spellbooks are still considered to have the same kind of astronomical value as they did under the LFQW days. There are prices for spell <em>scrolls o</em>n xge174, raritydc/atack bonuses for spell <em>scrolls</em> on dmg200, but neither gives even a suggested formula for converting filled spellbook pages to an estimated price. A <em>scroll </em>does quite a bit more than a spell book as it can actually be scribed or cast while the book can only be cast. The answer is "literally whatever the gm decides because spellbooks don't even have example rarities" for anything shy of artifacts like the book of vile darkness/book of exalted deeds on dmg222... It's almost like you've brought up yet another basic question about wizards wotc provides no guidance for guiding a GM.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's great, but a spellbook with a bunch of spells only useful for a wizard wanting to scribe it is extremely different from an enormous stack of scrolls that anyone can cast using the rules on dmg200. To a non-wizard, one is useful & the other one is somewhere between "worth a lot" & "soft toilet paper" depending on f you can find a wizard to buy it or not. Back in 3.5 page 54 of the dmg said <em>"If you’re designing an encounter with a wizard, subtract the valueof a spellbook and material components <strong>(see Selling a Spellbook,page 179 of the Player’s Handbook)</strong> from the averagetreasure value, but I'm not aware of any such rules in 5e, are you?"</em></p><p></p><p>edit: For arguments sake, that section back in the 3.5 phb read</p><p><em>"</em></p><p><em>Selling a Spellbook</em></p><p><em>Captured spellbooks can be sold for a gp amount equal to one-half the cost of purchasing and inscribing the spells within (that is, one-half of 100 gp per page of spells). A spellbook entirely filled with spells (thatis, with one hundred pages of spells inscribed in it) is worth 5,000 gp.</em></p><p><em>"</em></p><p></p><p>5e isn't the sort of gold fountain as 3.5, so it's safe to say dramatically less than the 330,000-700,000 guesstimate above & probably even less than the 3.5 value of 100gp/spell level</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7855008, member: 93670"] did you not read the section you were pointing at enough to realize that it's talking about hirelings? You do realize that PCs and NPCs don't follow all of the same rules You accurately note that an archmage's spellbook might sell for a notable amount, but the fact that people think spellbooks are still considered to have the same kind of astronomical value as they did under the LFQW days. There are prices for spell [I]scrolls o[/I]n xge174, raritydc/atack bonuses for spell [I]scrolls[/I] on dmg200, but neither gives even a suggested formula for converting filled spellbook pages to an estimated price. A [I]scroll [/I]does quite a bit more than a spell book as it can actually be scribed or cast while the book can only be cast. The answer is "literally whatever the gm decides because spellbooks don't even have example rarities" for anything shy of artifacts like the book of vile darkness/book of exalted deeds on dmg222... It's almost like you've brought up yet another basic question about wizards wotc provides no guidance for guiding a GM. That's great, but a spellbook with a bunch of spells only useful for a wizard wanting to scribe it is extremely different from an enormous stack of scrolls that anyone can cast using the rules on dmg200. To a non-wizard, one is useful & the other one is somewhere between "worth a lot" & "soft toilet paper" depending on f you can find a wizard to buy it or not. Back in 3.5 page 54 of the dmg said [I]"If you’re designing an encounter with a wizard, subtract the valueof a spellbook and material components [B](see Selling a Spellbook,page 179 of the Player’s Handbook)[/B] from the averagetreasure value, but I'm not aware of any such rules in 5e, are you?"[/I] edit: For arguments sake, that section back in the 3.5 phb read [I]" Selling a Spellbook Captured spellbooks can be sold for a gp amount equal to one-half the cost of purchasing and inscribing the spells within (that is, one-half of 100 gp per page of spells). A spellbook entirely filled with spells (thatis, with one hundred pages of spells inscribed in it) is worth 5,000 gp. "[/I] 5e isn't the sort of gold fountain as 3.5, so it's safe to say dramatically less than the 330,000-700,000 guesstimate above & probably even less than the 3.5 value of 100gp/spell level [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
UA Spell Versatility: A deeper dive
Top