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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7857961" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>IDK, you seemed to be arguing that swapping out is not a meaningful ability, in either case.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see why the second bit would matter to either form of swapping being useful - indeed, extremely so - in itself.</p><p></p><p> The Sorcerer couldn't do that. Now, given enough downtime, it can, and can swap out one spell starting the first day that the campaign environment shifts like that...</p><p></p><p>But, hey, at least you acknowledged the spell-swapping has value. I thought denying that very odd.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Those are considerations - along with character concept - that spell versatility will tend to errode.</p><p></p><p> Yet, thats the logical conclusion of denying the value of swapping out known/prepped spells.</p><p></p><p> Obviously, because the system is broken - or, there'd be more viable alternatives. The more a specific spell worms it's way into everyone's list, the poorer the overall design of spells and spell-casting.</p><p></p><p>Spell Versatility makes that symptom worse.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> But, your defense of it seems to be that it, and indeed, the existing swap on level up mechanic, and the even more versatile prep of neo-Vancian classes, is already radically under-utilized.</p><p></p><p> Oh, it absolutely <em>is</em> a buff, and it further erodes the Sorcerers already tenuous uniqueness. </p><p>But, no, the "poor wizards" thing is laughable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7857961, member: 996"] IDK, you seemed to be arguing that swapping out is not a meaningful ability, in either case. I don't see why the second bit would matter to either form of swapping being useful - indeed, extremely so - in itself. The Sorcerer couldn't do that. Now, given enough downtime, it can, and can swap out one spell starting the first day that the campaign environment shifts like that... But, hey, at least you acknowledged the spell-swapping has value. I thought denying that very odd. Those are considerations - along with character concept - that spell versatility will tend to errode. Yet, thats the logical conclusion of denying the value of swapping out known/prepped spells. Obviously, because the system is broken - or, there'd be more viable alternatives. The more a specific spell worms it's way into everyone's list, the poorer the overall design of spells and spell-casting. Spell Versatility makes that symptom worse. But, your defense of it seems to be that it, and indeed, the existing swap on level up mechanic, and the even more versatile prep of neo-Vancian classes, is already radically under-utilized. Oh, it absolutely [I]is[/I] a buff, and it further erodes the Sorcerers already tenuous uniqueness. But, no, the "poor wizards" thing is laughable. [/QUOTE]
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