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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crothian" data-source="post: 6318877" data-attributes="member: 232">For magic it is a saving throw so of course defenses against that don't work against an attack. But attacks have their own defenses like DR. I assume dr will make a doam zero if it does not get through.With all the complaints of fighters never being as powerful as spell casters it surprises me that giving fighters a small boost like this would upset people. If the doam is equal to strength bonus then is 5 points of damage really that bad? If that is enough to kill something then it was not muc of a threat to begin with.</blockquote>