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<blockquote data-quote="Lord_Blacksteel" data-source="post: 7652650" data-attributes="member: 53082"><p>It looks like this is being resolved but the whole episode raises some questions in my mind.</p><p></p><p>First there is this:</p><p></p><p><em>It has come to our attention that at a recent tournament held by Groovy Frog, Yugioh player Luke Lennard caused distress and harassment to an opponent who had learning difficulties, and had a confrontation with both his opponent’s parent and the store owners which has resulted in him being banned from the store.</em> </p><p></p><p>One teenager is a jerk to another teenager. Sounds like it was handled appropriately on the scene. Then it escalates to this:</p><p></p><p><em>Subsequently a video was made which showed Luke and his mates joking about playing against someone with Downs Syndrome, something which was likely to cause further harassment, alarm and distress.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333">And things are escalated to adults calling out teenagers by name on the internet for bad behavior. Not physical assault, not theft, not cheating, but name-calling, and it was not because of another incident in the store but because he was being stupid in a video online. Now that we have decided to take this step against this one kid, will this policy be continued? </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333">- If I'm a tournament player I would be interested in seeing an online "ban list" of people who have been caught cheating in local tournaments. This seems at least as reasonable as the above as it's a threat to the integrity of the tournament in particular and the competitive play scene in general.</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">- If I'm part of a network of store owners I'd like to have a group list online of people caught shoplifting in other local stores, with pictures to make it easier to identify them when they walk into my shop. These are threats to my business and to other businesses and seem at least as justifiable as what happened here.</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Additionally, a local store tournament might pull in anywhere from 10-50 players, plus some friends, plus some family. A number of those people will be currently accused of or will have been convicted of, criminal behavior from assault to far worse things than anything that was done here. Should tournament organizers and/or tournament players be screened with some kind of background or criminal history check? Should those with certain criminal histories be posted up on the store website and banned? Clearly we have decided that this kind of thing is not restricted to just in-store behavior so is anything fair game now?</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Finally, we have news from Oklahoma about 3 teenagers who killed a college baseball player because they were bored. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span>http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma</p><p></p><p>1) Is this news here? I'd guess similar numbers of EN Worlders have played baseball at some point in their lives as have played Yu-Gi-Oh. There's not a game store involved but the incident was far more severe.</p><p></p><p>2) These 3 guys get out on bail, walk into your store, and enter your Magic tournament. Do they get thrown out and called out by name in an open letter on the internet?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord_Blacksteel, post: 7652650, member: 53082"] It looks like this is being resolved but the whole episode raises some questions in my mind. First there is this: [I]It has come to our attention that at a recent tournament held by Groovy Frog, Yugioh player Luke Lennard caused distress and harassment to an opponent who had learning difficulties, and had a confrontation with both his opponent’s parent and the store owners which has resulted in him being banned from the store.[/I] One teenager is a jerk to another teenager. Sounds like it was handled appropriately on the scene. Then it escalates to this: [I]Subsequently a video was made which showed Luke and his mates joking about playing against someone with Downs Syndrome, something which was likely to cause further harassment, alarm and distress.[/I] [COLOR=#333333]And things are escalated to adults calling out teenagers by name on the internet for bad behavior. Not physical assault, not theft, not cheating, but name-calling, and it was not because of another incident in the store but because he was being stupid in a video online. Now that we have decided to take this step against this one kid, will this policy be continued? [/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]- If I'm a tournament player I would be interested in seeing an online "ban list" of people who have been caught cheating in local tournaments. This seems at least as reasonable as the above as it's a threat to the integrity of the tournament in particular and the competitive play scene in general. - If I'm part of a network of store owners I'd like to have a group list online of people caught shoplifting in other local stores, with pictures to make it easier to identify them when they walk into my shop. These are threats to my business and to other businesses and seem at least as justifiable as what happened here. Additionally, a local store tournament might pull in anywhere from 10-50 players, plus some friends, plus some family. A number of those people will be currently accused of or will have been convicted of, criminal behavior from assault to far worse things than anything that was done here. Should tournament organizers and/or tournament players be screened with some kind of background or criminal history check? Should those with certain criminal histories be posted up on the store website and banned? Clearly we have decided that this kind of thing is not restricted to just in-store behavior so is anything fair game now? Finally, we have news from Oklahoma about 3 teenagers who killed a college baseball player because they were bored. [/COLOR]http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma 1) Is this news here? I'd guess similar numbers of EN Worlders have played baseball at some point in their lives as have played Yu-Gi-Oh. There's not a game store involved but the incident was far more severe. 2) These 3 guys get out on bail, walk into your store, and enter your Magic tournament. Do they get thrown out and called out by name in an open letter on the internet? [/QUOTE]
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