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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grover Cleaveland" data-source="post: 2693355" data-attributes="member: 34932">Because, in The Primal Order, divine ranks are much more loosely defined than they are in Deities & Demigods or the Immortals boxed set. A lesser god can possibly have more primal base or flux than a greater god, and in that game that's all that matters.In The Primal Order, a greater deity is any god who controls at least five planes of existence.  It's not a direct measure of power, then - although a greater deity gains 10,000 points of primal base just by being a greater deity (why five is a magic number in the cosmos is unclear - I suspect Eris' work), a lesser deity might gain much more base than that from a fewer number of holdings, or simply be being older than the greater deity - lesser gods automatically gain 100 base every year, so any lesser god more than a century older than a greater god will have a 10,000 base advantage. You can also calculate it as 1% of the existing primal base, which might give our lesser god even more. A lesser god who shares a large number of planes but only controls one may also get a lot more base than a greater god who rules five planes but doesn't share control of any.The rank of Supreme Deity is also fairly arbitrary. The Olympian Twelve recognize Zeus as their Supreme Deity. If they were to recognize Athena instead, she would gain 25,000 base and Zeus would lose 25,000 base, but Zeus would still likely be more powerful than Athena (unless he had so much base invested in various projects that he was reduced into the negative numbers, in which case he would be dead and many of his planes might cannibalize one another in order to regain their balance). Zeus could also, theoretically, simply give all of his primal base to a lesser deity, and with that amount of influx the lesser god might well be more powerful than even some supreme deities - for example, Kurtulmak probably isn't that powerful, but he's technically a supreme deity because he's a greater deity recognized as the head of a pantheon. Insert obligatory Zero Wing joke here (I actually thought of The Primal Order when I first heard of Zero Wing - All Your Base Are Belong To Us).Anyway, your chart is fine as a crude estimate, but it's going to be wrong in some cases. A greater deity in TPO might well be more powerful than an Eternal or a Supernal if it's old enough and rules enough planes. A greater or supreme deity might be weaker than one of your lesser deities. The systems are just really different from one another.</blockquote>

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