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<blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 6101773" data-attributes="member: 6678119">First of all, just because something has great stats doesn't mean it's powerful.&nbsp; It certainly helps, but that monk would get smacked around by almost any full caster.Note posts such as <a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19873078/Hulking_Hurler_build?post_id=338559754#338559754" target="_blank">this</a> which might very well fit your criteria.&nbsp; Yes, the&nbsp;is technically legal, but of course anyone with half a brain cell wouldn't allow it in an actual campaign unless it was something &quot;just to see how it goes.&quot;And then there's Pun-Pun.&nbsp; Basically that build uses a loophole where it can gain nigh-infinite stats and pretty much everthing else, all while starting as a simple kobold or pretty much any other character that can get a Candle of Invocation.Trust me, you don't want to get into the &quot;ultimate character&quot; thing.&nbsp; Never say something is the most powerful or awesome or [insert amazing description] thing ever, because someone will beat it if Pun-Pun hasn't already done it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jackinthegreen, post: 6101773, member: 6678119"] First of all, just because something has great stats doesn't mean it's powerful. It certainly helps, but that monk would get smacked around by almost any full caster. Note posts such as [url=http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19873078/Hulking_Hurler_build?post_id=338559754#338559754]this[/url] which might very well fit your criteria. Yes, the is technically legal, but of course anyone with half a brain cell wouldn't allow it in an actual campaign unless it was something "just to see how it goes." And then there's Pun-Pun. Basically that build uses a loophole where it can gain nigh-infinite stats and pretty much everthing else, all while starting as a simple kobold or pretty much any other character that can get a Candle of Invocation. Trust me, you don't want to get into the "ultimate character" thing. Never say something is the most powerful or awesome or [insert amazing description] thing ever, because someone will beat it if Pun-Pun hasn't already done it. [/QUOTE]

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