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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5624994" data-attributes="member: 35909">Has anyone here tried out the Ninja?  I've had the pdf for a while and it actually looks really interesting, albeit very very MAD (they practically have no dumpstats!).  It's like the Rogue, but with talents that don't suck, I'd say it's actually almost enough to balance the Rogue with the onther non-casters, though it could still use a little more help.Unfortunately, it appears the majority opinion on paizo's forums is that because it's slightly better than the Rogue (REALLY not a difficult accomplishment), that it's somehow overpowered, even though most other classes in core could still tear it to shreds.  Rather than the real issue: the Rogue's weaksauceness.  Also ignoring that (I'm guessing) based on Rogue getting access to Ninja tricks and bunch of new options, that the Rogue class itself will likely get a heaping helping of desperately needed "power creep" in this new book to keep it on par with the Ninja.Rant aside, anyone actually get to try one out yet?  I like the smoke bomb line, but it eats SO many of your ninja tricks (just think, there's 3 of them pre-Master Tricks at level 10, and you only get four tricks by then) that I just don't see it as worth the investment.  How versatile does Forgotten Trick make you?  Do you find it difficult to not run out of ki, with so many class features potentially fueling off of it?</blockquote>