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<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5455331" data-attributes="member: 50895"><p>Oh, certainly adoption which was exercised constantly throughout Japanese history, makes the idea of bloodlines a very muddy situation. Adoption was a political practice, even considering the Tokugawa Ieyasu required Minamoto blood to be considered shogun, so the emperor adopted Ieyasu, so the claim could be true.</p><p></p><p>Besides, much history is written by the victors in a war, so accuracy is out the window for that, or history is written hundreds after the fact, so no kind of accuracy relied on. My previous posts confirm my belief in that.</p><p></p><p>When talking about non-Japanese members in Japanese society after Heian Period (700 - 1185), such as Koreans and Chinese, most fell into the Hinin (eta) 'tainted' caste and not as true members of Japanese society. The only organization that regularly accepts non-Japanese is the Yakuza, and that's an organization of the Hinin caste only.</p><p></p><p>Really the last time Chinese/Korean immigrants were allowed in Japanese society was prior to 700 AD, and as the possible original Japanese having arrived from the continent prior to 400 AD.</p><p></p><p>The idea of non-Buddhist monks who were non-Japanese to be accepted into Japanese society at all, after the founding years is only the yakuza, not as adopted members in samurai clans and certainly not the noble caste. I have to completely disagree with you on that point (I could be wrong, but my sources say otherwise.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 5455331, member: 50895"] Oh, certainly adoption which was exercised constantly throughout Japanese history, makes the idea of bloodlines a very muddy situation. Adoption was a political practice, even considering the Tokugawa Ieyasu required Minamoto blood to be considered shogun, so the emperor adopted Ieyasu, so the claim could be true. Besides, much history is written by the victors in a war, so accuracy is out the window for that, or history is written hundreds after the fact, so no kind of accuracy relied on. My previous posts confirm my belief in that. When talking about non-Japanese members in Japanese society after Heian Period (700 - 1185), such as Koreans and Chinese, most fell into the Hinin (eta) 'tainted' caste and not as true members of Japanese society. The only organization that regularly accepts non-Japanese is the Yakuza, and that's an organization of the Hinin caste only. Really the last time Chinese/Korean immigrants were allowed in Japanese society was prior to 700 AD, and as the possible original Japanese having arrived from the continent prior to 400 AD. The idea of non-Buddhist monks who were non-Japanese to be accepted into Japanese society at all, after the founding years is only the yakuza, not as adopted members in samurai clans and certainly not the noble caste. I have to completely disagree with you on that point (I could be wrong, but my sources say otherwise.) [/QUOTE]
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