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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 97273" data-attributes="member: 111">Thanks, Archer.As far as definitions go, here's another:The gauntlets and hemlet are clearly part of the armor.Just thought I'd point out the hole in your argument on the definition of &quot;armor&quot;.But wait - somewhere in the PHB it states that you can freely exchange the helm or gauntlets that come with armor to magical ones (wondrous items).&nbsp; That muddies the waters up just a bit in your favor.In any case, I'll admit that in D&amp;D armor could be any of the following, depending upon your argument:1.&nbsp; A suit of armor with shield, gauntlets and helmet.2.&nbsp; A suit of armor with gauntlets and helmet, but not including the shield.3.&nbsp; A suit of armor not including shield, gauntlets or helmet.4.&nbsp; A suit of armor including the shield, but not including gauntlets or helmets.I think #2 follows the letter and intent of the rules most closely, but I'll include all of them in the guide.Thanks for your input - you made me take a fresh look at this.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />If you would like to debate this, I'm willing; just start a new thread for it, okay?&nbsp; I'd rather not have big debates in this thread - it will make it hard to compile the guide, which I am doing partly by gathering responses in this thread.Thanks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 97273, member: 111"] Thanks, Archer. As far as definitions go, here's another: The gauntlets and hemlet are clearly part of the armor. Just thought I'd point out the hole in your argument on the definition of "armor". But wait - somewhere in the PHB it states that you can freely exchange the helm or gauntlets that come with armor to magical ones (wondrous items). That muddies the waters up just a bit in your favor. In any case, I'll admit that in D&D armor could be any of the following, depending upon your argument: 1. A suit of armor with shield, gauntlets and helmet. 2. A suit of armor with gauntlets and helmet, but not including the shield. 3. A suit of armor not including shield, gauntlets or helmet. 4. A suit of armor including the shield, but not including gauntlets or helmets. I think #2 follows the letter and intent of the rules most closely, but I'll include all of them in the guide. Thanks for your input - you made me take a fresh look at this.:) If you would like to debate this, I'm willing; just start a new thread for it, okay? I'd rather not have big debates in this thread - it will make it hard to compile the guide, which I am doing partly by gathering responses in this thread. Thanks. [/QUOTE]

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