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<blockquote data-quote="Gnosis" data-source="post: 5137292" data-attributes="member: 89082">Conservative might be good in this case.&nbsp; Kindof hinges on how you interpret &quot;already&quot; - which is weird - i mean why didnt they just write &quot;This effect cannot be applied to the same spell more than once.&quot;&nbsp; I think its because what they were trying to limit is more complex than that.&nbsp; As a DM i think how you interpret it should probably depend on how powerful a campaign you like to run and how you balance magic and melee...Im not sure that the sneak attack situation is a direct parallel because it is one feat... the ability to overlay metamagics in the fashion we're discussing costs not only 2 or more metamagic feats (at minimum) but also a prestige feat AND in one round spends a minimum of 3 spells (the one you're augmenting and the one or several you are sacrificing).&nbsp; Regardless though i think it is clear no matter what: An ultimage cannot memorize an empowered, silent, still fireball and then sacrifice a spontaneous lvl 3 slot to maximize through augmented casting because this could permit them to regularly cast spells augmented by 4-5 metamagics several times daily without passing their Aug Casting limit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gnosis, post: 5137292, member: 89082"] Conservative might be good in this case. Kindof hinges on how you interpret "already" - which is weird - i mean why didnt they just write "This effect cannot be applied to the same spell more than once." I think its because what they were trying to limit is more complex than that. As a DM i think how you interpret it should probably depend on how powerful a campaign you like to run and how you balance magic and melee... Im not sure that the sneak attack situation is a direct parallel because it is one feat... the ability to overlay metamagics in the fashion we're discussing costs not only 2 or more metamagic feats (at minimum) but also a prestige feat AND in one round spends a minimum of 3 spells (the one you're augmenting and the one or several you are sacrificing). Regardless though i think it is clear no matter what: An ultimage cannot memorize an empowered, silent, still fireball and then sacrifice a spontaneous lvl 3 slot to maximize through augmented casting because this could permit them to regularly cast spells augmented by 4-5 metamagics several times daily without passing their Aug Casting limit. [/QUOTE]

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