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Umbral Template in Dragon too powerful?
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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1653197" data-attributes="member: 892"><p>1) Foresight lasts 10 minutes/lvl. Even a high level group would need to cast a lot of them, especially as each one only affects one person.</p><p>2) Foresight stops you from being surprised and allows you time for one action, tops, (presumably either to cast deathward on yourself or to warn the attacked person under your foresight to cast deathward on herself -- assuming that person can even cast deathward). If that action is casting deathward, that at best protects one person, tops. What do you do next round if the umbral dragon wins initiative and targets someone that is not deathwarded yet?</p><p>3) Reading over the article, I see that the umbral colossal creature would only gain one attack/rd, which alleviates some of my worries (good catch Sejs). It would not be a tpk. It would be a one round kill (and undeadification) of the weakest character(s) not protected by the one deathward the party has time to set up, however. 14 str loss (average) on the party mage or rogue...bye-bye! And heaven help you if it has Spring Attack and decides to attack and hide in the walls/floor.</p><p>4) There is still the problem of the nearly unhittable fine umbral critter. 1 str per round, and how would you even find a "shadow creature" that small?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 1653197, member: 892"] 1) Foresight lasts 10 minutes/lvl. Even a high level group would need to cast a lot of them, especially as each one only affects one person. 2) Foresight stops you from being surprised and allows you time for one action, tops, (presumably either to cast deathward on yourself or to warn the attacked person under your foresight to cast deathward on herself -- assuming that person can even cast deathward). If that action is casting deathward, that at best protects one person, tops. What do you do next round if the umbral dragon wins initiative and targets someone that is not deathwarded yet? 3) Reading over the article, I see that the umbral colossal creature would only gain one attack/rd, which alleviates some of my worries (good catch Sejs). It would not be a tpk. It would be a one round kill (and undeadification) of the weakest character(s) not protected by the one deathward the party has time to set up, however. 14 str loss (average) on the party mage or rogue...bye-bye! And heaven help you if it has Spring Attack and decides to attack and hide in the walls/floor. 4) There is still the problem of the nearly unhittable fine umbral critter. 1 str per round, and how would you even find a "shadow creature" that small? [/QUOTE]
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