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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xanterith" data-source="post: 3199622" data-attributes="member: 47264">In the grapple to get the guy away from the cube example above, you still would provoke an AoO from the cube - Since you are "attacking" the helpless PC, the cube can still womp on you.That being said, I still can't see how the whole grapple thing is at all relevant.  If you did use it on an enemy, you can't exactly "spring" away from them if you are grappled, which is the big advantage of spring attack, and the movement that will generally invoke the AoO unless the opponent has reach (another good use for spring attack).  Also, it specifically says you have to move before and after the attack, and not having a book handy, I don't know what the rules are for moving with an opponent grappled, but I imagine they are not really in the attackers favor and probably not easy.  I would say trip, disarm, unarmed strike are all valid, and I would also consider a held touch attack as a "weapon" as well for purpose of this ability.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />edit:  Form the grappling section: Grappling and Spring Attack are immpossible to use together as the movement while grappled requires a standard action, as does the attack.  Can't do two standard actions in a round, and you need to move after the grapple to use spring attack.</blockquote>

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