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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 1858988" data-attributes="member: 23094">Before DR / ER:All successful attacks always do at least one point of damage - i.e., a tiny creature attacking with a cursed tiny-sized knife -10 (1d1-10) and a Strength score of 1 (-5) will do 1d1-15, for a minimum of 1 point of damage.Should that attack be done with an unarmed strike, it will usually (not always) be nonlethal damage.Some people / creatures do lethal damage with an unarmed strike.The two statements you quote do not *explicitly* state that all unarmed strikes must do damage; this much is true.What they say, logically laid out, is:3. If an unarmed strike does any damage, it is usually nonlethal.4. Some creatures do lethal damage with unarmed strikes.What is missing is the rules from the text on weapon attacks.  With those included:1. Unarmed strikes are melee weapons. [SRD, Equipment]2. Minimum Damage: If penalties reduce the damage result to less than 1, a hit still deals 1 point of damage. [SRD, Combat Basics]3. If an unarmed strike does any damage, it is usually nonlethal.4. Some creatures do lethal damage with unarmed strikes.Better?</blockquote>