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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Caliburn101" data-source="post: 6921577" data-attributes="member: 6802178">I think it is your understanding of what you propose that is lacking, and it shows in this statement.The Barbarian who cannot (after levelling) be surprised now enjoys a class feature that negates TWO penalties they would otherwise suffer during a surprise round - their attacker having advantage and them losing AC due to your houserule. The Rogue would not only get advantage for landing their opening sneak attack, they'd get an easier target to hit, making everything but a very bad role a sure-fire way of doing more damage than the other party members - and of course with your homebrew version of 'super-surprise' the ability to 'double dip' into proficiency in stealth becomes a 1st round damage amplifier no--brainier, which gets even more potent if the subclass chosen is assassin...... meanwhile the other classes (in the main) gain and lose in equal measure.So, as I said - it's class bias.If you don't see that at this stage then there would seem little reason to re-iterate it, so I'll just leave this here.</blockquote>