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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darkwolf445" data-source="post: 3487649" data-attributes="member: 38505">I was using the fighter as an example of hit point disparity.We also had an ogre paladin, an 8th level wizard, an 8th level druid, and myself, an 8th level cleric.  Just for myself, and I have been schooled by some seriously optimizing cleric players as a DM, even fully buffed I would not have been able to compete with this player's character.  That was the primary intent here: Is the class unbalanced, or is the player taking advantage/fudging?Sorry if that was not clearly stated.I am the kind of DM who allows pretty much anything, save for the Book of Exalted Deeds (Because I truly hate that book), because I have a group of players that knows the rules and polices itself.  This group is not mine, nor do I know the other players.</blockquote>