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<blockquote data-quote="Theo R Cwithin" data-source="post: 5335914" data-attributes="member: 75712"><p><u><strong>The gauntlets?</strong></u> No.</p><p></p><p>Why? Short answer is because that's an epic item, by <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/magicItems/basics.htm" target="_blank">definition</a>, and that requires an epic item creation feat:</p><p>Longer answer is to just compare it to other magic items. The gauntlets basically grant a weapon enhancement, so look at magic weapon, rather than the more generic spell effect rules. It's effectively a +20 weapon, but the bonus is only applied to the attack roll. DM Hat of Arbitrary Rulings decides that's "half" the expected functionality , so call it roughly equivalent to a +10 enhancement (and that's probably an understatement).</p><p></p><p>That's 200,000gp. At <em>least</em>. Throw in the fact that this gauntlet or whatever actually applies to any weapon wielded? That is clearly epic. Double-plus-epic, actually!</p><p><u><strong></strong></u></p><p><u><strong>The +20 skill check item?</strong></u> Probably ok (?)</p><p></p><p>Why? Compare it to the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/creatingMagicItems.htm#tableEstimatingMagicItemGoldPieceValues" target="_blank">standard way to make magic items that grant bonuses</a> on skill checks. The formula is (bonus squared x 100gp). For a +20, that comes to 40,000gp, so your cited value using spell is in the same ball park. (Remember body slot affinities that might push up the price, though.)</p><p></p><p>(Honestly, though, 40k-50k feels low to me. :/ Meh, YMMV.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Theo R Cwithin, post: 5335914, member: 75712"] [U][B]The gauntlets?[/B][/U] No. Why? Short answer is because that's an epic item, by [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/magicItems/basics.htm"]definition[/URL], and that requires an epic item creation feat: Longer answer is to just compare it to other magic items. The gauntlets basically grant a weapon enhancement, so look at magic weapon, rather than the more generic spell effect rules. It's effectively a +20 weapon, but the bonus is only applied to the attack roll. DM Hat of Arbitrary Rulings decides that's "half" the expected functionality , so call it roughly equivalent to a +10 enhancement (and that's probably an understatement). That's 200,000gp. At [I]least[/I]. Throw in the fact that this gauntlet or whatever actually applies to any weapon wielded? That is clearly epic. Double-plus-epic, actually! [U][B] The +20 skill check item?[/B][/U] Probably ok (?) Why? Compare it to the [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/creatingMagicItems.htm#tableEstimatingMagicItemGoldPieceValues"]standard way to make magic items that grant bonuses[/URL] on skill checks. The formula is (bonus squared x 100gp). For a +20, that comes to 40,000gp, so your cited value using spell is in the same ball park. (Remember body slot affinities that might push up the price, though.) (Honestly, though, 40k-50k feels low to me. :/ Meh, YMMV.) [/QUOTE]
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