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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 3256273" data-attributes="member: 474">Hmm, let me pull up the spreadsheet with the exact timing.  OK, Ra has been a greater god for 3,920 years or so; the particular anti-undead push is probably 3,850 years long, then, giving him a few generations to assert himself.  Hades has always been opposed to the existence of undead, but his particular vitriol toward them didn't start until much more recently, perhaps 800 years ago.There haven't been powerful undead gods for 3,000 years.Hades and Ra are the main opponents of undead.  An intermediate god, Enrith, also opposes them, but not as single-mindedly.  Not until the ranks of the lesser gods do any openly support undead, although several intermediate gods don't mind them.Actually my planet does exist in a spiritual (though not literal!) vacuum.  There are no other groups of gods for other planets.  The only gods that exist but are not known on the world are those too powerful to be known and those that do not choose to reveal themselves.Yes, there are several cases where gods at least two steps apart work together:Ra and Hades (NG/NE), as discussed above.Ranthbor and Ra (LN/NG), both former worshipers of the late Aeos.Honeth and Korven (CN/LG), both champions and protectors of the halfling raceEbon and Ranthbor (CN/LN), since Ebon is the non-evil replacement of an evil godEbon and Ra (CN/NG), ditto.There may be other cases, but these are the obvious 'off the top of my head' cases.  Gods aren't constrained by their alignments, of course, and follow their interests first.  Of course it helps that I'm not using a 'Great Wheel' system that segregates gods by their alignments.The souls of the dead are held by Hades, who ransoms them back to other gods, sells them back to mortals (raise dead and the like), or retains them to absorb their power.  Like Plouton of Greek mythology, he is a cthonic god of riches, vastly increased by the souls.  Creating an undead creature requires stealing a soul back from Hades, which serves both to sap his power and to anger him.Undead worshiping Hades would be slain on calling out to him.Even good parties have at times accepted quests (for money) from various representatives of the church of Hades to destroy undead creatures.  This has led to some rather interesting situations, where the PCs agree that the undead creature in question is certainly evil but helping the church itself is morally questionable, at best.</blockquote>

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