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<blockquote data-quote="Chun-tzu" data-source="post: 1775791" data-attributes="member: 1441"><p>If you want to get really technical, this combination is illegal. Druids can't take Selune as a patron (which, IMHO, is stupid). Faiths and Pantheons has a complete list of nature deities, and clearly states that druids and rangers MUST take one of these deities as their patron (because other deities can't grant nature spells).</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, the very same book also talks about many Rangers taking the Windwalker prestige class, which is also illegal, since Shaundakul can't grant nature spells either. Even a multiclassed Ranger would need to worship a nature deity to gain spells, thus the Windwalker requirements of "casting divine spells" and "worshipper of Shaundakul" are directly contradictory for the Ranger. Shaundakul is supposed to be a patron of Rangers, but he's left off the nature deity list (and thus, any Rangers worshipping him must be the foolish ones, who lack the Wisdom to cast spells or to select another deity). So it seems to me that the "complete" list is not complete, and I'd add Shaundakul and Selune.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chun-tzu, post: 1775791, member: 1441"] If you want to get really technical, this combination is illegal. Druids can't take Selune as a patron (which, IMHO, is stupid). Faiths and Pantheons has a complete list of nature deities, and clearly states that druids and rangers MUST take one of these deities as their patron (because other deities can't grant nature spells). On the other hand, the very same book also talks about many Rangers taking the Windwalker prestige class, which is also illegal, since Shaundakul can't grant nature spells either. Even a multiclassed Ranger would need to worship a nature deity to gain spells, thus the Windwalker requirements of "casting divine spells" and "worshipper of Shaundakul" are directly contradictory for the Ranger. Shaundakul is supposed to be a patron of Rangers, but he's left off the nature deity list (and thus, any Rangers worshipping him must be the foolish ones, who lack the Wisdom to cast spells or to select another deity). So it seems to me that the "complete" list is not complete, and I'd add Shaundakul and Selune. [/QUOTE]
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