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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7326920" data-attributes="member: 12731">Sure, just that in the end, you're optimizing for what remains a 4d8 fireball (if we assume a basic miss chance of 50%).It just looks to me that the best way to optimize the scroll... is to hand it to the Wizard, and have the EK do some sword swings instead.Yes, you can lower that miss chance... but it just doesn't look to me a great way to spend Bardic Inspirations or Blesses or somesuch. And don't ask the EK to have a better Intelligence just to make spellcasting checks.The basic idea of being a "scroll-caster" is intriguing, but my end analysis is "sure, but another subclass than the EK". Sounds much more like what the Arcane Trickster could have been, if only WotC hadn't priced the Use Magic Device ability so steeply. If you got UMD already when you selected your subclass, and you could gain spellcasting check proficiency somehow... now we're talking, since it is now much more reasonable to ask for a +2 Int modifier and a +5 on your DC 13 rolls. Then add a possibility to select UMD as one of your Expertises, and we're quickly looking at +11!The EK, meanwhile, is much better off dumping Int and simply avoiding any spells that rely on a good spellcasting ability score (such as spells that trigger saving throws).So yes, we agree the evocation angle is spurious at best. In fact, I consider it a trap, in that it suggests to newbies that evocation spells are what Eldritch Knights do well, when any real analysis tells us that is the opposite of how you really should approach the class, namely "just cast spells that doesn't eat up your Attack actions, don't rely on Concentration, and otherwise act like an entirely non-magical fighter" to oversimplify a bit.</blockquote>

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