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<blockquote data-quote="ASchmidt" data-source="post: 9617156" data-attributes="member: 6729334"><p>Very true and more, creators can put conditions on how they want their creations to be used. They can say it's free for personal use but requires a license for corporate use.</p><p></p><p>There's a handful of "ethical" LLMs out there that specifically only train with open source or public domain material. But every other one out there, they've stolen from millions of creators to train their AIs and every prompt that pulls upon their work to populate the result is another theft. That is at the root of the industry and they have to resolve this issue. OpenAI was set up as a non-profit specifically to try to get around the "commercial use" portion of Fair Use.</p><p></p><p>But really this is tech bro "disruption" at play... move fast, break things. In this case, they stole millions of works and then used them to make money. That's the bottom line. I don't think there's a way around that. And both the stealing of the works and the using of them are separate legal violations because the first is about how they acquired them and the second is that they don't have a license for using the works.</p><p></p><p>I get that LLM's and what we're calling "AI" these days are useful for some things. But we have to deal with the fact that they were built entirely upon stolen work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ASchmidt, post: 9617156, member: 6729334"] Very true and more, creators can put conditions on how they want their creations to be used. They can say it's free for personal use but requires a license for corporate use. There's a handful of "ethical" LLMs out there that specifically only train with open source or public domain material. But every other one out there, they've stolen from millions of creators to train their AIs and every prompt that pulls upon their work to populate the result is another theft. That is at the root of the industry and they have to resolve this issue. OpenAI was set up as a non-profit specifically to try to get around the "commercial use" portion of Fair Use. But really this is tech bro "disruption" at play... move fast, break things. In this case, they stole millions of works and then used them to make money. That's the bottom line. I don't think there's a way around that. And both the stealing of the works and the using of them are separate legal violations because the first is about how they acquired them and the second is that they don't have a license for using the works. I get that LLM's and what we're calling "AI" these days are useful for some things. But we have to deal with the fact that they were built entirely upon stolen work. [/QUOTE]
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