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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5663308" data-attributes="member: 78958">Way to go, warn off the mod. I give you ten points for the cojones, but minus a million for common sense. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />To adress the PrC itself though:1. No matter how all-inclusive the magic immunity is getting, this guy is no serious contender for tier 1. Consider: what can he do by himself? No more than a single-class Fighter, basically. He still needs help to get places (like up that cliff, or to the Elemental Plane of Air, or New Zealand), fight off lame-ass bruiser monsters (like a Storm Giant with Crusader levels), and get the girl next door to go out with him. This help can be in the form of magic items (which apparently he may use, although UMD is forbidden to him), or your friendly neighborhood god wizard...2. The abilities this guy gets are good - but they're also almost all defensive. I can see a little bit of debuffing/BC in the "1/day get rid of an area effect", but otherwise, he's a bit like the so-called "tank" builds that only get 100 AC, and no offensive bite, and who consequently get ignored until the rest of the party is dealt with.3. Guess what, a primary caster can't meaningfully affect this guy personally, so he'll get a bunch of Undead/mind-controlled thralls/Golems/Summoned Demons/the LAPD to do the job for him. What can the Unbeliever do against that? Well, looks like it's time to whip out that sword again...4. While getting more and more immune to much (but by no means all. I'm looking at you, Grease and Solid Fog) magic, this guy is giving up on versatility in a major way. At least a straight Fighter gets bonus feats. What does this guy here get? Anti-stuff.All in all, and I know I'm gonna get stomped on for this, I'd eyeball the Unbeliever to around tier 4. Why so low? Because he can't do much that a standard tier 5 Fighter can't also name as his area of expertise. Because he can't solve a problem nobody else can solve, unless the problem happens to be a clearly visible, non-melee capable spellcaster in melee range, with no way to get out of there and no allies to back him up.Whoa, EDITing: Almost forgot to say that I really like the class, it's a great example of a very specialized, even niche, warrior PrC, that I'd totally allow at my table this instant. BUT FIX THE ISSUE WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO BE BUFFED OR HEALED! [/needless yelling]</blockquote>

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