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Uncanny Dodge and the Dodge bonus - Yes or No?
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<blockquote data-quote="woodelf" data-source="post: 1642137" data-attributes="member: 10201"><p>No, you lose your dodge bonus in situations where you lose your Dex bonus--there's no "because" or other subordinating conjunction in there. It's a subtle difference, which may be one of sloppy wording, or of different meaning. Unless you can find me a citation that explicitly says "<em>because</em> you lose your Dex bonus to AC, you lose your dodge boni to AC"--everything i've found so far, or that has been cited in this thread, doesn't tell us whether it's a causal or correlative relationship. Oh, and there is at least one situation where you explicitly do not lose dodge boni, despite losing Dex bonus: the wearing of armor. Again, the wording is unclear as to whether this is a genuine exception to a rule ("you lose dodge boni when you lose Dex bonus, except if the Dex bonus loss is due to wearing armor") or an example of when the rule doesn't apply ("situations that cause you to lose your Dex bonus also will cause you to lose your dodge boni, but wearing armor is not one of these situations"). I'm certainly more comfortable with the former interpretation, but it's not at all clear that it is the only, or correct, interpretation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="woodelf, post: 1642137, member: 10201"] No, you lose your dodge bonus in situations where you lose your Dex bonus--there's no "because" or other subordinating conjunction in there. It's a subtle difference, which may be one of sloppy wording, or of different meaning. Unless you can find me a citation that explicitly says "[i]because[/i] you lose your Dex bonus to AC, you lose your dodge boni to AC"--everything i've found so far, or that has been cited in this thread, doesn't tell us whether it's a causal or correlative relationship. Oh, and there is at least one situation where you explicitly do not lose dodge boni, despite losing Dex bonus: the wearing of armor. Again, the wording is unclear as to whether this is a genuine exception to a rule ("you lose dodge boni when you lose Dex bonus, except if the Dex bonus loss is due to wearing armor") or an example of when the rule doesn't apply ("situations that cause you to lose your Dex bonus also will cause you to lose your dodge boni, but wearing armor is not one of these situations"). I'm certainly more comfortable with the former interpretation, but it's not at all clear that it is the only, or correct, interpretation. [/QUOTE]
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