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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9849334" data-attributes="member: 6801776"><p>Doctor Who's proudly a Monster of the Week show. And as mentioned, there remains a difference in the clearly non-human monster doing something like that compared to a human doing it. Daleks are inhuman monsters anyway you slice it</p><p></p><p>And given people are going on saying there's "oh they're going to change it from the past and its going to be awful" and the racism is, for sure, the thing we know they're not keeping... Why wouldn't I assume that? We had a whole debate up-thread where people waved off the whole halfling issue. These are the big issues that need to be faced when doing a Dark Sun and if people are pre-emptively saying its going to suck, what assumption can I take away from that other than "People want them to bring in early 90s style racism so bad even Games Workshop went away from it"?</p><p></p><p>No, Ravenloft did not withstand the test of time. Strahd withstood the test of time, the rest absolutely did not. And frankly, I think Ravenloft has a much edge as Shadow the Hedgehog if I gotta be honest. The setting that gave us 'what if pinnochio was evil' is the equivalent of this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DsR0Y71WO3E" target="_blank">memed clip</a>. This is to say nothing of how much of Ravenloft is squarely in TSR's 'we made this book for you to read, not play' era and isn't going to lead to satisfactory play, as most distinct in the ultimate expression of this, Masque of the Red Death, a completely forgotten setting so stuck in 90s RPG design that there's no demand for it to be revived.</p><p></p><p>If 5e's was truly that disliked and the original so timeless, then the 'here's the REAL ravenloft!' projects would be popular rather than tiny niche things most people ignore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 9849334, member: 6801776"] Doctor Who's proudly a Monster of the Week show. And as mentioned, there remains a difference in the clearly non-human monster doing something like that compared to a human doing it. Daleks are inhuman monsters anyway you slice it And given people are going on saying there's "oh they're going to change it from the past and its going to be awful" and the racism is, for sure, the thing we know they're not keeping... Why wouldn't I assume that? We had a whole debate up-thread where people waved off the whole halfling issue. These are the big issues that need to be faced when doing a Dark Sun and if people are pre-emptively saying its going to suck, what assumption can I take away from that other than "People want them to bring in early 90s style racism so bad even Games Workshop went away from it"? No, Ravenloft did not withstand the test of time. Strahd withstood the test of time, the rest absolutely did not. And frankly, I think Ravenloft has a much edge as Shadow the Hedgehog if I gotta be honest. The setting that gave us 'what if pinnochio was evil' is the equivalent of this [URL='https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DsR0Y71WO3E']memed clip[/URL]. This is to say nothing of how much of Ravenloft is squarely in TSR's 'we made this book for you to read, not play' era and isn't going to lead to satisfactory play, as most distinct in the ultimate expression of this, Masque of the Red Death, a completely forgotten setting so stuck in 90s RPG design that there's no demand for it to be revived. If 5e's was truly that disliked and the original so timeless, then the 'here's the REAL ravenloft!' projects would be popular rather than tiny niche things most people ignore. [/QUOTE]
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