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<blockquote data-quote="heliopolix" data-source="post: 1334918" data-attributes="member: 15956">And actually, turning takes place on Lowest and Closest HD first - so if there were any lower HD undead within 60 Ft of the Cleric, he would turn those first, only turning himself when the undead had the same or greater HD as he had ( and assuming his turning check could turn him and he still had turn damage left). If he was all by himself and turned, I'd let the stupid PC be Stunned for a minute, with the word &quot;Dumbass&quot; ringing in his ears <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />. Interestingly, a neutral cleric can choose to Turn or Rebuke undead - but not both - its a one time choice. So a neutral undead cleric of a neutral deity can turn himself. Not that I'd ever allow it as a PC option in my campaing (though it would provide a fairly amusing ally for the PC's to wonder over)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="heliopolix, post: 1334918, member: 15956"] And actually, turning takes place on Lowest and Closest HD first - so if there were any lower HD undead within 60 Ft of the Cleric, he would turn those first, only turning himself when the undead had the same or greater HD as he had ( and assuming his turning check could turn him and he still had turn damage left). If he was all by himself and turned, I'd let the stupid PC be Stunned for a minute, with the word "Dumbass" ringing in his ears :P. Interestingly, a [b]neutral[/b] cleric can choose to Turn or Rebuke undead - but not both - its a one time choice. So a neutral undead cleric of a neutral deity can turn himself. Not that I'd ever allow it as a PC option in my campaing (though it would provide a fairly amusing ally for the PC's to wonder over) [/QUOTE]

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