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<blockquote data-quote="derelictjay" data-source="post: 3395289" data-attributes="member: 19336"><p>Here's my thoughts on this subject. First off each undead type should be treated differently on whether the souls still in them or not. I have always had a problem that a LG paladin will rise as a ghoul with his soul stuck in the corpse, I mean come on how could a soul of such radiant goodness be trapped in something so evil as a ghoul?</p><p></p><p>Mindless guys, zombies and skeletons, they're just animated things, what separates them from constructs is that they are animated with negative energy. No soul in them.</p><p></p><p>Now most of your spawners, ghouls, shadows and such, when something is killed by these the corpse rises up, well the soul still leaves the body, and a negative image of it is made to inhabit the corpse. However they're exceptions to this; guys that were "cursed" into these form, such as a cannibal who turns into a ghoul, he's still got his original soul, and the vampire (see below).</p><p></p><p>Then you got your guys who choose to become undead, liches; or whose sorrow, guilt or hatred keeps them on the material plane, ie ghosts. These guys still have there souls, and their souls have been merged, or transformed into the negative energy that powers them.</p><p></p><p>Finally, you have the made, example mummies, these guys are created through a process. These guys usually have the soul trapped inside them, powering the undead creature, though the negative energy is still animating them. (Now these guys are perfectly fine to have a paladin's soul trapped in them). </p><p></p><p>Now, the vampire (and the few creatures like them maybe the wrath), these guys are special, I say that some are the negative copies of the soul while others are the actual soul. At the moment of death by a vampire, a soul can decide to stay with the body or leave (most good souls leave), then if the soul leaves a negative copy is put in the body, these guys rarely go beyond the basic rank of vampire spawn.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="derelictjay, post: 3395289, member: 19336"] Here's my thoughts on this subject. First off each undead type should be treated differently on whether the souls still in them or not. I have always had a problem that a LG paladin will rise as a ghoul with his soul stuck in the corpse, I mean come on how could a soul of such radiant goodness be trapped in something so evil as a ghoul? Mindless guys, zombies and skeletons, they're just animated things, what separates them from constructs is that they are animated with negative energy. No soul in them. Now most of your spawners, ghouls, shadows and such, when something is killed by these the corpse rises up, well the soul still leaves the body, and a negative image of it is made to inhabit the corpse. However they're exceptions to this; guys that were "cursed" into these form, such as a cannibal who turns into a ghoul, he's still got his original soul, and the vampire (see below). Then you got your guys who choose to become undead, liches; or whose sorrow, guilt or hatred keeps them on the material plane, ie ghosts. These guys still have there souls, and their souls have been merged, or transformed into the negative energy that powers them. Finally, you have the made, example mummies, these guys are created through a process. These guys usually have the soul trapped inside them, powering the undead creature, though the negative energy is still animating them. (Now these guys are perfectly fine to have a paladin's soul trapped in them). Now, the vampire (and the few creatures like them maybe the wrath), these guys are special, I say that some are the negative copies of the soul while others are the actual soul. At the moment of death by a vampire, a soul can decide to stay with the body or leave (most good souls leave), then if the soul leaves a negative copy is put in the body, these guys rarely go beyond the basic rank of vampire spawn. [/QUOTE]
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