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Message: <blockquote data-quote="QuietBrowser" data-source="post: 6948213" data-attributes="member: 6855057">Thank you very much for the kind words of support! Taking your advice, this is what the Undead Master looked like in 2e:Base Class: WizardAlignment Requirements: Must be Neutral or EvilAdvantages:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellcasting enhancements as per a Necromancer</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can cast Enchantment school spells (ordinarily forbidden to Necromancers)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can Command Undead as per an Evil Cleric of equivalent level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can use Command feature to control Fiends and Extraplanar Creatures as if they were Undead of equivalent hit dice</li> </ul>Disadvantages:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cannot cast spells from the Alteration (Transmutation, in subsequent editions), Divination or Illusion schools</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cannot use specialist wizard items (wand of illusion, wand of polymorph, robe of eyes, etc) drawing from those schools</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can only have 1 proficiency point in 1 Wizard weapon; all other proficiency points must be spent on non-weapon proficiencies</li> </ul>So, what this tells me is that a 5e update needs a Command Undead & Fiends feature, like a cleric, and other features that bolster affinity with Necromancy spells and Enchantment spells. I can't make my mind up if they should get some Conjuration-boosting traits too - what do you think?Or should I post their AD&D fluff writeup, even the whole fluff + crunch writeup, before asking something like this?For a recap, these are the features of the Necromancer, Enchanter and Conjurer wizards in 5e, plus the Command Undead ability of the Oathbreaker Paladin - ironically, Death clerics have no special modifications to their default Turn Undead ability.[sblock]Oathbreaker Paladin:Channel Divinity - Control Undead: Target one visible undead creature with a CR lower than your level within 30 feet; target must successfully pass a Wisdom save or obey all of the paladin's orders for 24 hours or until it uses this ability on another target.Conjurer:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Conjuration Savant: Halve gold & time to copy Conjuration spells into your spellbook.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Minor Conjuration: Summon assorted small, non-magical items at will.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Benign Transportation: Teleport 30 feet or tele-switch locations with a willing Medium or Small creature within that range. Usable once per long rest, but recharges if you cast a 1st level or higher Conjuration spell.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Focused Conjuration: Conjuration spells you cast with the Concentration trait can no longer be dispelled by inflicting damage on you.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Durable Summons: +30 temp HP on all conjured creatures you summon/create.</li> </ul>Enchanter:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Enchantment Savant: Halve gold & time to copy Enchantment spells into your spellbook.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hypnotic Gaze: Can seize hypnotic control over a creature at will.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Instinctive Charm: Can use a reaction to cause an attacking creature within 30 feet that aims its attack at you to instead target someone else.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Split Enchantment: Can use 1st level or higher single-target Enchantment spells on 2 targets simultaneously.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alter Memories: Can choose to have Charmed creatures fail to realize they were charmed when the spell ends, and wipe some of their memories from their time whilst charmed.</li> </ul>Necromancer:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Necromancy Savant: Halve gold & time to copy Necromancy spells into your spellbook.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Grim Harvest: Once per turn, can gain HP by killing non-undead non-construct creatures with your 1st+ level spells, with more health regained from Necromantic spells.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Undead Thralls: Gain Animate Dead for free, increase amount of undead you can raise per casting by +1, undead you create gain hit point & damage bonuses.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Inured to Undeath: Gain Resistance (Necrotic) and immunity to max HP reduction.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Command Undead: Can attempt to take control over a visible undead creature within 60 feet. Target must successfully pass a Charisma save or else become friendly and obedient to you; if it passes its check, it becomes permanently immune to this ability from you. You can only have one such minion at a time. Undead with Int 8+ have Advantage on their save, undead with Int 12+ can re-take their saving throw at the end of every hour until they succeed.</li> </ul>[/sblock]These'll come in handy for inspiration, but I figure the best way to handle the Undead Master - who may need a rename, since their defining trait is being master over the dead, the demonic and the living - is to give it a complete swathe of new traits. Make sense to anybody else?</blockquote>

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