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Message: <blockquote data-quote="meltinbradley" data-source="post: 4552128" data-attributes="member: 80012">hmm...Yeah, it was cool when they had low hp. With the fact that the vampire gets increase in strength and raises BAB he has a  decent BAB. There is also a feat called unholy toughness which the vampire has now and his HP went WAY up because instead of using con for HP increase you use your CHA modifier and him being a vampire he has a high CHA. He also has a feat I forget the name but it allows you to make a saving throw when you go to zero or less HP. The save is based on how much damage you suffer below zero. If you make the save you awaken with half your HP, if you fail you go gaseous. If it happens again, then you may do it a second time, but if you fail the save that time you are permanently destroyed. The lich is about to advance next game, and guess what feat he is going to take? Thats right Unholy toughness and I will be dealing with a 200+ HP lich.The good news is I think Im going to kill him off permanently real soon. Have him make a new character. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious    :]" data-shortname=":]" /></blockquote>