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<blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 5091438" data-attributes="member: 1356"><p>Correlation is not causation- what if the negative level ISN'T due to energy drain? You imply that immunity to energy drain makes them immune to becoming undead, but that's not the case. A warforged's immunity to energy drain merely makes them immune to gaining negative levels FROM energy drain, NOT from gaining negative levels at all! And it's the negative levels that can make a creature undead.</p><p></p><p>Now, admittedly, there aren't very many incidents where one can get negative levels WITHOUT an obvious energy drain effect as the cause, but it can happen- as is the case when a good creature attempts to wield an <em>unholy</em> weapon. If said creature is only first level, it's pretty clear that gaining a negative level (temporarily or not, and whatever the cause) will instantly kill it. Then what happens? </p><p></p><p>According to the glossary entry I quoted above (And two things about that: 1-it's an entry on 'negative levels' by itself, not attached to energy drain and, 2-it's an online reference and so presumably up to date with all current errata. I only point this out to avoid reference to the RC since its propriety is somehow in doubt AND it only references negative levels as linked to energy drain which doesn't help in answering this question.) someone slain by negative levels WILL RISE as something- without an undead creature as the cause, the default is rising as a wight.</p><p></p><p>Since we're bringing up controversial sources, I should point out that my original post (that warforged can become undead, it's just difficult finding an undead template that can be applied) is based on the official D&D faq on the <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a" target="_blank">WOTC site</a> (see pg. 7 "Can a warforged be animated as or transformed into an undead?"). The faq also points out how picking up <em>unholy</em> weapons can be lethal for first level good-aligned characters (pg. 59).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FoxWander, post: 5091438, member: 1356"] Correlation is not causation- what if the negative level ISN'T due to energy drain? You imply that immunity to energy drain makes them immune to becoming undead, but that's not the case. A warforged's immunity to energy drain merely makes them immune to gaining negative levels FROM energy drain, NOT from gaining negative levels at all! And it's the negative levels that can make a creature undead. Now, admittedly, there aren't very many incidents where one can get negative levels WITHOUT an obvious energy drain effect as the cause, but it can happen- as is the case when a good creature attempts to wield an [i]unholy[/i] weapon. If said creature is only first level, it's pretty clear that gaining a negative level (temporarily or not, and whatever the cause) will instantly kill it. Then what happens? According to the glossary entry I quoted above (And two things about that: 1-it's an entry on 'negative levels' by itself, not attached to energy drain and, 2-it's an online reference and so presumably up to date with all current errata. I only point this out to avoid reference to the RC since its propriety is somehow in doubt AND it only references negative levels as linked to energy drain which doesn't help in answering this question.) someone slain by negative levels WILL RISE as something- without an undead creature as the cause, the default is rising as a wight. Since we're bringing up controversial sources, I should point out that my original post (that warforged can become undead, it's just difficult finding an undead template that can be applied) is based on the official D&D faq on the [URL="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a"]WOTC site[/URL] (see pg. 7 "Can a warforged be animated as or transformed into an undead?"). The faq also points out how picking up [I]unholy[/I] weapons can be lethal for first level good-aligned characters (pg. 59). [/QUOTE]
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