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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 520378" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Here are the actual clairifications Charles Ryan posted so far on Brawl, CMA, and related topics. The solider combination you presented is a new (and nice) twist.</p><p></p><p>Q: “A few question about how brass knuckles operate. It states in their description that brass knuckles let you do lethal with an unarmed attack but that the attack is otherwise considered unarmed. </p><p></p><p>Also it states that if you have the brawl feat, that brass knuckles increase the base damage delt by +1 and turn the damage lethal.</p><p></p><p>SO...my two questions are this. Does the first part mean that even though people with brass knuckles can deal lethal, they still provoke attacks of opportunity when they attack.”</p><p></p><p>A: Attacks made with brass knuckles provoke attacks of opportunity just like normal unarmed attacks. Also, you cannot make attacks of opportunity with brass knuckles (just as you cannot make AoO with normal unarmed attacks).</p><p></p><p>Q: With brawl and brass knuckles is the +1 on top of the additional damage from brawl or in stead of. In other words, with brawl and brass knuckles: do I deal 1d6+1 lethat damage or 1D3+1 lethal? </p><p></p><p>A: 1d3+1.</p><p></p><p>Q: Do brass knuckles do +1 damage when used by a person with combat martial arts or are brass knuckles essentially useless to someone with combat martial arts (because they can already do lethal) </p><p></p><p>A: They offer no advantage when used with the Combat Martial Arts feats.</p><p></p><p>To summarize, brass knuckles allow a regular unarmed strike to do lethal damage (1d3). If a person with the brawl feat uses brass knuckles, they can choose to do either non-lethal brawl damage (1d6)or lethal 1d3+1. Either of these still draw attacks of opportunity from threatening opponents. Brass knuckles have no effect for a person using Combat Martial Arts.</p><p></p><p>Q: There are several feats like "Brawl" that raise the amount of non-lethal damage you do when you make an unarmed attack. My question is if these translate into lethal damage if I have the combat martial arts feat. In other words, if I have combat martial arts and brawl, do I deal 1D6 lethal or nonlethal, my choice. Or it that I can deal 1d4 lethal (combat martial arts) or 1d6 nonlethal (brawl)? </p><p></p><p>A: At any given time, you use one feat or the other. In other words: If you want to deal nonlethal damage, and don't care if you're considered armed or unarmed, use the Brawl feat to deal 1d6 damage. If you want to deal lethal damage, and/or you want to make an unarmed attack of opportunity (or not provoke an AoO when making your unarmed attack), use the Combat Martial Arts feat and deal only 1d4 damage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 520378, member: 2525"] Here are the actual clairifications Charles Ryan posted so far on Brawl, CMA, and related topics. The solider combination you presented is a new (and nice) twist. Q: “A few question about how brass knuckles operate. It states in their description that brass knuckles let you do lethal with an unarmed attack but that the attack is otherwise considered unarmed. Also it states that if you have the brawl feat, that brass knuckles increase the base damage delt by +1 and turn the damage lethal. SO...my two questions are this. Does the first part mean that even though people with brass knuckles can deal lethal, they still provoke attacks of opportunity when they attack.” A: Attacks made with brass knuckles provoke attacks of opportunity just like normal unarmed attacks. Also, you cannot make attacks of opportunity with brass knuckles (just as you cannot make AoO with normal unarmed attacks). Q: With brawl and brass knuckles is the +1 on top of the additional damage from brawl or in stead of. In other words, with brawl and brass knuckles: do I deal 1d6+1 lethat damage or 1D3+1 lethal? A: 1d3+1. Q: Do brass knuckles do +1 damage when used by a person with combat martial arts or are brass knuckles essentially useless to someone with combat martial arts (because they can already do lethal) A: They offer no advantage when used with the Combat Martial Arts feats. To summarize, brass knuckles allow a regular unarmed strike to do lethal damage (1d3). If a person with the brawl feat uses brass knuckles, they can choose to do either non-lethal brawl damage (1d6)or lethal 1d3+1. Either of these still draw attacks of opportunity from threatening opponents. Brass knuckles have no effect for a person using Combat Martial Arts. Q: There are several feats like "Brawl" that raise the amount of non-lethal damage you do when you make an unarmed attack. My question is if these translate into lethal damage if I have the combat martial arts feat. In other words, if I have combat martial arts and brawl, do I deal 1D6 lethal or nonlethal, my choice. Or it that I can deal 1d4 lethal (combat martial arts) or 1d6 nonlethal (brawl)? A: At any given time, you use one feat or the other. In other words: If you want to deal nonlethal damage, and don't care if you're considered armed or unarmed, use the Brawl feat to deal 1d6 damage. If you want to deal lethal damage, and/or you want to make an unarmed attack of opportunity (or not provoke an AoO when making your unarmed attack), use the Combat Martial Arts feat and deal only 1d4 damage. [/QUOTE]
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