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<blockquote data-quote="Kelleris" data-source="post: 1741363" data-attributes="member: 19130">*whew*I was afraid that someone would take offense to something overly-blunt I said.&nbsp; Although that doesn't seem to be the case, apologies if you did.Thanks for the comment, Mustrum, I was beginning to wonder if I was the only person here who thought that way.&nbsp; I do have to 'fess up on one point, though, which you made me remember - doubled power from +2 levels doesn't necessarily mean that each individual factor (feats, class abilities, saves) is doubled in importance, although I think that's indicated in the case of hp.&nbsp;Aside from the examples I quoted, my main reason for arguing this is that it's the assumption that the experience point award system uses: 2 Cr 10 creatures is an EL 12 encounter, 4 is EL 14, 8 is EL 16, and so forth until the numbers break down at large&nbsp; mobs of creatures.&nbsp; It may not be true, but it is the impression the game designers seem to have been laboring under.I have to say, though, that it doesn't work quite as well in D20 Modern, although I think they use the same system, because high-level Modern characters are not usually as radically better-equipped than their low-level counterparts as they are in D&amp;D.&nbsp;I was just citing equivalencies in terms of raw damage.&nbsp; If you were actually planning on blowing up a vehicle, the RPG is better, because it ignores some of the thing's hardness.And the best D&amp;D spell for attacking vehicles is disintegrate.&nbsp; That 10' cube pretty much puts whatever you point it at out of commission.&nbsp; I'd feel a little dirty doing it, though.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> takyris - I like your explanation of what hp means.&nbsp; Wish I could add something to it, but that's pretty much exactly what I do.&nbsp; Well, except that I enjoy occasionally rendering my PCs into bloody wrecks.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kelleris, post: 1741363, member: 19130"] *whew* I was afraid that someone would take offense to something overly-blunt I said. Although that doesn't seem to be the case, apologies if you did. Thanks for the comment, Mustrum, I was beginning to wonder if I was the only person here who thought that way. I do have to 'fess up on one point, though, which you made me remember - doubled power from +2 levels doesn't necessarily mean that each individual factor (feats, class abilities, saves) is doubled in importance, although I think that's indicated in the case of hp. Aside from the examples I quoted, my main reason for arguing this is that it's the assumption that the experience point award system uses: 2 Cr 10 creatures is an EL 12 encounter, 4 is EL 14, 8 is EL 16, and so forth until the numbers break down at large mobs of creatures. It may not be [I]true[/I], but it is the impression the game designers seem to have been laboring under. I have to say, though, that it doesn't work quite as well in D20 Modern, although I think they use the same system, because high-level Modern characters are not usually as radically better-equipped than their low-level counterparts as they are in D&D. I was just citing equivalencies in terms of raw damage. If you were actually planning on blowing up a vehicle, the RPG is better, because it ignores some of the thing's hardness. And the [I]best [/I]D&D spell for attacking vehicles is [I]disintegrate[/I]. That 10' cube pretty much puts whatever you point it at out of commission. I'd feel a little dirty doing it, though. :D takyris - I like your explanation of what hp means. Wish I could add something to it, but that's pretty much exactly what I do. Well, except that I enjoy occasionally rendering my PCs into bloody wrecks. :heh: [/QUOTE]

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