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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7837147" data-attributes="member: 6919838">More desirable but still not worth it is just cosmetics, seems to me.If you have a penalty, does it reduce skills prof? If not 8 Int dump stat is still a thing.Do you see someone building a character dropping say a 14 con to 10 to raise a 10 int to 14 in order to get 8 proficiencies instead of 6 at first level? Any character can start with at least 6 ptofivirnces in skills+tools, some more. Two more is not that big compared to moving a +2 worth of bonus from a stat they will use. This seems to be going to accomplish two things to me... Move wizards into having more skills, plus any others who already have reason to spin higher INT. Its rewarding more those who already emphasize INT for other reasons.In a few cases push other dump stats - maybe put 8 in STR instead of INT for more dex skills for your agile fighter? Ard you better off just sliding dump stats around ?In my experience, in actual play, wizards dont need &quot;more&quot; - they do well in and out of combat and work very well in all pillars.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7837147, member: 6919838"] More desirable but still not worth it is just cosmetics, seems to me. If you have a penalty, does it reduce skills prof? If not 8 Int dump stat is still a thing. Do you see someone building a character dropping say a 14 con to 10 to raise a 10 int to 14 in order to get 8 proficiencies instead of 6 at first level? Any character can start with at least 6 ptofivirnces in skills+tools, some more. Two more is not that big compared to moving a +2 worth of bonus from a stat they will use. This seems to be going to accomplish two things to me... Move wizards into having more skills, plus any others who already have reason to spin higher INT. Its rewarding more those who already emphasize INT for [I]other reasons[/I]. In a few cases push other dump stats - maybe put 8 in STR instead of INT for more dex skills for your agile fighter? Ard you better off just sliding dump stats around ? In my experience, in actual play, wizards dont need "more" - they do well in and out of combat and work very well in all pillars. [/QUOTE]

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