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<blockquote data-quote="thecasualoblivion" data-source="post: 4941173" data-attributes="member: 59096"><p>Biggest issue I had with alignment was with character concepts who were very &quot;shades of grey&quot; and didn't fit very cleanly onto the alignment axis. Best example I have from experience was my character Tinuviel, from my 2E days over 10 years ago. She had Chaotic Neutral written on her sheet, but she was far deeper than the description of Chaotic Neutral found in the 2E PHB. The big argument came almost a year into the campaign where another player who had recently joined the game accused me of misplaying my alignment. His issue was that I was giving him trouble over his disreputable and dishonorable behavior, both in general and towards the party. He said that a Chaotic Neutral character would have no issue with his conduct, though thankfully the DM backed me completely on this. The issue was that she didn't really fit cleanly into Chaotic Neutral. On one hand she was mean, drank too much, had contempt for her companions and the world in general, tended towards random outbursts of fatal violence, once killed city guards to save her own neck and didn't lose a night's sleep over it, had no respect for authority or civil government(except for individuals who impressed her, which was very rare), and tended to be self-centered and manipulative to an extreme degree. On the other hand she was a highly disciplined(bordering on military discipline) warrior who was all business when something was at stake, was brave without being reckless, was someone you could count on when you were in trouble, conducted herself in an honorable manner in public and expected the same of her company though only for the sake of appearances, and cultivated a public image of a hero the city of Waterdeep could count on. She had no use for the good and just, but also believed that idiots shouldn't play with evil and the dark side, and her companions were above all else idiots.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="thecasualoblivion, post: 4941173, member: 59096"] Biggest issue I had with alignment was with character concepts who were very "shades of grey" and didn't fit very cleanly onto the alignment axis. Best example I have from experience was my character Tinuviel, from my 2E days over 10 years ago. She had Chaotic Neutral written on her sheet, but she was far deeper than the description of Chaotic Neutral found in the 2E PHB. The big argument came almost a year into the campaign where another player who had recently joined the game accused me of misplaying my alignment. His issue was that I was giving him trouble over his disreputable and dishonorable behavior, both in general and towards the party. He said that a Chaotic Neutral character would have no issue with his conduct, though thankfully the DM backed me completely on this. The issue was that she didn't really fit cleanly into Chaotic Neutral. On one hand she was mean, drank too much, had contempt for her companions and the world in general, tended towards random outbursts of fatal violence, once killed city guards to save her own neck and didn't lose a night's sleep over it, had no respect for authority or civil government(except for individuals who impressed her, which was very rare), and tended to be self-centered and manipulative to an extreme degree. On the other hand she was a highly disciplined(bordering on military discipline) warrior who was all business when something was at stake, was brave without being reckless, was someone you could count on when you were in trouble, conducted herself in an honorable manner in public and expected the same of her company though only for the sake of appearances, and cultivated a public image of a hero the city of Waterdeep could count on. She had no use for the good and just, but also believed that idiots shouldn't play with evil and the dark side, and her companions were above all else idiots. [/QUOTE]

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