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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4942800" data-attributes="member: 19675">My reading of Paladin legend and lore differs somewhat.There was very little option in the &quot;Paladins&quot; of various eras- and some who heard The Call thought they were mad before they realized the incessant demands were of divine origin.&nbsp; Some were even punished.&nbsp; One does not lightly ignore the express will of the divine.As for The Call not requiring a god...I can buy that in 3Ed+ D&amp;D and even a few modern novels, but they are far and away the exception.&nbsp; In a faith that has a concept of the divine that does not recognize or include true deities, the Paladin is probably someone who has been made aware of a particular need that he or she knows- to a dead certainty- that it is his cosmic duty to satisfy.Even the agnostic fits to a certain point, since they, by definition, are seeking but do not know the answer as to whether there is a divine force or not.&nbsp; To them, The Call may be a personal test of whether the divine exists at all.&nbsp; To use another phrase from christian theology- they may well be &quot;acts, not faith&quot; oriented.&nbsp; Their Code will be somewhat different, since their motivation&nbsp; is so highly internalized.&nbsp; And the consequences of their failures result in the loss of their power because they have lost faith in themselves.Atheists, though...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4942800, member: 19675"] My reading of Paladin legend and lore differs somewhat. There was very little option in the "Paladins" of various eras- and some who heard The Call thought they were mad before they realized the incessant demands were of divine origin. Some were even punished. One does not lightly ignore the express will of the divine. As for The Call not requiring a god...I can buy that in 3Ed+ D&D and even a few modern novels, but they are far and away the exception. In a faith that has a concept of the divine that does not recognize or include true deities, the Paladin is probably someone who has been made aware of a particular need that he or she knows- to a dead certainty- that it is his cosmic duty to satisfy. Even the agnostic fits to a certain point, since they, by definition, are seeking but do not know the answer as to whether there is a divine force or not. To them, The Call may be a personal test of whether the divine exists at all. To use another phrase from christian theology- they may well be "acts, not faith" oriented. Their Code will be somewhat different, since their motivation is so highly internalized. And the consequences of their failures result in the loss of their power because they have lost faith in themselves. Atheists, though... [/QUOTE]

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