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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 3126674" data-attributes="member: 16285">Just to make my opinion clear.The Primary Source Rule applies.MoP contains rules for specific locations (i.e, the planes). To extrapolate those rules for other locations can be done but it is not RAW in any way, shape or form.&nbsp;This kind of thing is usually referred to as House Rules.The DMG has information for swimming and walking underwater. It has no allowance for &quot;flying&quot;. It likewise has no allowance for burrowing (and yes I keep bringing that up because if people want to state that the DMG doesn't specifically prohibit flying underwater therefor you can then likewise anything not specifically prohibited should be allowed, which includes burrowing.) The DMG gives specific requirements for walking on the bottom (e.g wearing enough weight to remain submerged) whereas there are no equivalent text to address other forms of movement (like flying).If you wish to allow flying underwater then you must also address the boyancy issue. But flying also has weight restriction in order to use that form of movment. The rules for Tactical Aerial Movement should also apply (they are in the DMG) and unfortunealty they don't make any sense when underwater. For example the infomration on minimum forward speed and being forced to land don't quite work underwater - do you go up or down?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 3126674, member: 16285"] Just to make my opinion clear. The Primary Source Rule applies. MoP contains rules for specific locations (i.e, the planes). To extrapolate those rules for other locations can be done but it is not RAW in any way, shape or form. This kind of thing is usually referred to as House Rules. The DMG has information for swimming and walking underwater. It has no allowance for "flying". It likewise has no allowance for burrowing (and yes I keep bringing that up because if people want to state that the DMG doesn't specifically prohibit flying underwater therefor you can then likewise anything not specifically prohibited should be allowed, which includes burrowing.) The DMG gives specific requirements for walking on the bottom (e.g wearing enough weight to remain submerged) whereas there are no equivalent text to address other forms of movement (like flying). If you wish to allow flying underwater then you must also address the boyancy issue. But flying also has weight restriction in order to use that form of movment. The rules for Tactical Aerial Movement should also apply (they are in the DMG) and unfortunealty they don't make any sense when underwater. For example the infomration on minimum forward speed and being forced to land don't quite work underwater - do you go up or down? [/QUOTE]

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