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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 3128024" data-attributes="member: 111">This is an error on your part.  You are reading the rule as if it stated that flying can ONLY be done in the air.  If that were true, flying could not be done in any other medium - such as pure oxygen, because that'd not "air."That's a bit of a silly example just to point out the flaw in reading the rule as prostrictive.The real point I am trying to make is that the rules simply do not directly address whether flying is allowed underwater.  That most certainly does not make it disallowed though.One must take the whole rules set, along with the FAQ and MotP and anything else all together to decide if flying is allowed underwater and, if so, how it actually works.By core rules alone it is neither allowed nor prohibited.  Core rules do tell us that fly speed is used in the air.  It does not address when else flying can or cannot be done.In pure oxygen?In a poisonous gas?In a vacuum?Underwater?Underground (as in actually in the ground, like burrowing)The rules do NOT say where to draw the line.  It seems clear to me that flying to create a path underground (like burrowing) is right out because pushing dirt aside with your head simply would not work.On the other hand, flying underwater does seem reasonable, is not prohibited by the rules, and is specifally allowed by the FAQ and MotP and also follows the spriit of the rules for "Hampered Movement."All in all, I'd say the rules allow it, and I further say that's a pretty easy call.Frankly, whether  a really strict reading of the rules supports it or not is really unimportant, especially as it is possible to argue it either way.The hard part is to decide what happens, exactly.  Is the "fly" speed converted to swimming (perhaps at a reduced rate)?  Are the speed and maneuverability reduced but it is still flying?  This is where the DM must decide.</blockquote>

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