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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Atridis" data-source="post: 1133440" data-attributes="member: 13919">D'oh! All that ranting gone to waste. Oh, well. To follow this thread... I didn't like the movie's version of vampires. As someone already pointed out, they weren't undead; not only did Victor's heart start beating, but his daughter was pregnant when he had her killed. And the general coolness of vampires was underutilized. Jumping off of buildings and clinging to ceilings added nothing to the story other than to say "look, we have super-powers, too!" They were just good-looking people with guns and expensive tastes. The whole pathos of being a vampire or a werewolf was lost entirely. I thought the Selene-Michael relationship was going to go that direction - I was convinced that Michael was a "cure" to vampirism (and maybe lycanthropy, too) and that Lucian wanted to use him as a weapon (or salvation, or both - end the war by making all the immortals mortal again). I've never played any White Wolf games, but it makes sense for werewolves to be more ferocious than vampires, if they were bred by the vampires to be a kind of warrior caste. After all, a vampire would want a bodyguard who could defeat another vampire.</blockquote>