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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 1410239" data-attributes="member: 5202">On the MS front I got lucky.&nbsp; My university had an agreement with MS and I got XP Pro for $7 and same for Office XP Pro.&nbsp; Saved about 600 bucks or so heh.&nbsp; I will freely admit tho that my favorite telnet program (SecureCRT) is a crack b/c I can't swing 100 bucks for it.&nbsp; There are other decent free ones out there, but I'm using ver 3.3 which is several versions old and it works well.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;CD prices are ridiculously high and that is the main thing that tempts most people to not pay for anything.&nbsp; I mean when you can get 50 CDRs for $5 after rebate, why not?&nbsp; That's the attitude.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;There's lots of bands who do something similar to Dream Theater there.&nbsp; Duran Duran, Aphex Twin and System of a Down are some I know who have used the Get Connected system so people can watch extra features and such.&nbsp; They Might Be Giants and Ween both give out free mp3s on their site and encourage people to record and trade their live shows, as does Phish.&nbsp; Phish and Metallica (just recently) both now offer download of their shows for a small fee.&nbsp; Phish charges 9.95 for an entire show in mp3 format I know.&nbsp; Metallica is similar I believe.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Ween is actually going a step beyond that.&nbsp; They're getting someone to make some software that fans can download and it sits in your system tray like AIM or many other programs.&nbsp; You can use it to jump to Ween IRC and other chat groups, trade lists, and there will only be a few people outside the band (known dedicated show recorders) that are allowed to upload to it.&nbsp; Once stuff is uploaded there everyone is free to grab whatever they want.&nbsp; They're doing this so that good copies of all their live music makes it up instead of someone putting up bad copies.&nbsp; Some people have no ethics and will trade bad material that is somewhat rare for other rare stuff and the guys in Ween don't like that *grin*&nbsp; Pretty cool band and a very fun live show.&nbsp;&nbsp;Ok, that was a tangent *grin*&nbsp;&nbsp;Hagen</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 1410239, member: 5202"] On the MS front I got lucky. My university had an agreement with MS and I got XP Pro for $7 and same for Office XP Pro. Saved about 600 bucks or so heh. I will freely admit tho that my favorite telnet program (SecureCRT) is a crack b/c I can't swing 100 bucks for it. There are other decent free ones out there, but I'm using ver 3.3 which is several versions old and it works well. CD prices are ridiculously high and that is the main thing that tempts most people to not pay for anything. I mean when you can get 50 CDRs for $5 after rebate, why not? That's the attitude. There's lots of bands who do something similar to Dream Theater there. Duran Duran, Aphex Twin and System of a Down are some I know who have used the Get Connected system so people can watch extra features and such. They Might Be Giants and Ween both give out free mp3s on their site and encourage people to record and trade their live shows, as does Phish. Phish and Metallica (just recently) both now offer download of their shows for a small fee. Phish charges 9.95 for an entire show in mp3 format I know. Metallica is similar I believe. Ween is actually going a step beyond that. They're getting someone to make some software that fans can download and it sits in your system tray like AIM or many other programs. You can use it to jump to Ween IRC and other chat groups, trade lists, and there will only be a few people outside the band (known dedicated show recorders) that are allowed to upload to it. Once stuff is uploaded there everyone is free to grab whatever they want. They're doing this so that good copies of all their live music makes it up instead of someone putting up bad copies. Some people have no ethics and will trade bad material that is somewhat rare for other rare stuff and the guys in Ween don't like that *grin* Pretty cool band and a very fun live show. Ok, that was a tangent *grin* Hagen [/QUOTE]

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