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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 7680529" data-attributes="member: 63508">The thing isThe paladin's steed is a CR 1/2 warhorse, CR 1/8 pony,  CR 1/4 elk, CR 1/8 mastiff, or  CR 18 camel that never gets stronger. It wipes on less than damage and  can't hit the broad side of a barn byy the time you can willing to resummon it when not on downtime. It's effect HP is ~15* the number of 2nd or higher spell slots you are willing to burn on it. And every slot you do use to resummon is is one less divine smite.Find Steed WarhorseActs: Has own actionsHP: 19 +19*slots used to resummon itSpeed: 60'AC: 11 OR bardingAttack rolls: +4Damage: 11 Duration: PermanentOther: Trampling Charge, Can be used as a mount for medium or smaller characters.Beastmaster MastiffActs: Uses master's actionsHP: 5 OR Ranger level *4 (44 at level 11)AC: 12 + Ranger's Proficiency (16 at level 11) OR bardingSpeed: 40'Attack rolls: +3 + Ranger's Proficiency  (7 at level 11)Damage: 4 + Ranger's Proficiency (8 at level 11)Duraction: PermanentOther: keen hearing and smell. can be used as a mount for small characters.Neoranger's spirit bearActs: Has own actions HP: 34 OR  Half the Ranger level  (~52 at level 11)AC: 11 Speed: 40', Climb 30'Attack rolls: +5 + Ranger's wisdom  (~+7 at level 11)Damage: 8 + 11Duration:  1 minuteOther: keen smell. If you average the AC/Hp, level 11 beast companion is about a CR 4 creature defensively and hits 50% of the time of a CR 11 creature for 8 damage for attack. The spirit beast is a high end CR 1 creature and the found steed is a CR 1/2 creature or worse. As for a necormancer, almost everything undead over CR 2 will keep getting saving throws and eventually breaks free. And the bound planar is very expensive. It's not an equal game and the tradeoffs are there.A free willed beastmaster beast might not look too bad. But allowing the ranger to get Weapon/Weapon/Beast instead of WeaponBeastBeast each turn can get bad fast. It becomes a virtual free attack each turn without giving up your 2 sharpshooter bow shots or relying on positioning or targeting like the hunter does. It could easily catch a DM off gaurd.</blockquote>

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