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<blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 7680596" data-attributes="member: 6786252">Thoughts on the Ranger, one more time:A large problem I consistantly see with the Ranger write ups is that, at some point, the writers are trying to compare it to another class.&nbsp; Before, we were comparing the Ranger to the Druid.&nbsp; The write up even suggested that the Ranger uses Druid magic.&nbsp; Which is sad, because even the paladin doesn't use cleric magic, he uses his own.&nbsp; In this case, we're looking at a skirmisher-y nature-y paladin.&nbsp; The writers have some very good ideas.&nbsp; Its rough around the edges, but this is a playtest document looking for feedback, not something perfectly fine tuned.&nbsp; But my problem is that, thematically, we're still butting our heads up against not defining the Ranger according to his or her own unique identity.&nbsp; With the exception of the Sorcerer and Mystic, each class has a unique identity that no one else shares.&nbsp; Each has unique niches that no one else touches.&nbsp; An outdoors-y survivalist spirit-totem user is easily covered by the Barbarian.&nbsp; That's not a unique niche.&nbsp; And, until we find that unique niche, we're always going to have this same problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mephista, post: 7680596, member: 6786252"] Thoughts on the Ranger, one more time: A large problem I consistantly see with the Ranger write ups is that, at some point, the writers are trying to compare it to another class. Before, we were comparing the Ranger to the Druid. The write up even suggested that the Ranger uses Druid magic. Which is sad, because even the paladin doesn't use cleric magic, he uses his own. In this case, we're looking at a skirmisher-y nature-y paladin. The writers have some very good ideas. Its rough around the edges, but this is a playtest document looking for feedback, not something perfectly fine tuned. But my problem is that, thematically, we're still butting our heads up against not defining the Ranger according to his or her own unique identity. With the exception of the Sorcerer and Mystic, each class has a unique identity that no one else shares. Each has unique niches that no one else touches. An outdoors-y survivalist spirit-totem user is easily covered by the Barbarian. That's not a unique niche. And, until we find that unique niche, we're always going to have this same problem. [/QUOTE]

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