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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 1388117" data-attributes="member: 2205">That's only an issue if I hadn't already had those books for several years, in some cases.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  Sure, starting from scratch, UA is a better deal than picking up Star Wars so you can see how WP/VP works, and class based defense bonus, and CoC to see how Sanity works (to use two examples.)  But I've had both of those books since they were new.Besides, my comment isn't that UA isn't a good book and worth owning, merely that I don't think it lives up to the hype.  Most of the better rules in it are not original to d20, and in many cases, they weren't exactly spelled out exactly how they should be used, especially in combination with other house rules.  To me, that seems like it should have been a pretty crucial step, and would have been worth it to pick up even if I literally had every rule already in the book in print from somewhere else.As it is, I still have to do the same amount of work to kitbash in many of the optional rules.</blockquote>