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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 888136" data-attributes="member: 1288">Well (he said, hijacking the thread even further <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />), here's the question.Do you believe a character's physical beauty (or lack thereof) should have a mechanical affect in the game?If you do not, a Comeliness score is more or less useless.&nbsp; Far better just to describe your character's overall attractiveness as part of the physical description.&nbsp; If Comeliness has no mechanical impact, does it really matter if I've got a 15 or a 16?If you think Comeliness should have a mechanical effect (such as, perhaps, granting bonuses or penalties to certain types of skill rolls), then that opens up an entirely new avenue of questioning.&nbsp; See, if Comeliness has a mechanical affect then, for purposes of fairness and balance, players shouldn't be able to just choose.&nbsp; They should have to roll it, like they roll any other score.&nbsp; But if they have to roll it, aren't you, in essence, taking away the player's ability to create his own character?&nbsp; Of all the details to decide when making a character, general &quot;image&quot; is one of the most personal.&nbsp; Sure, some people like complete randomness, but most players I've met have a pretty solid idea of what they want their character to look and act like.&nbsp; The difference between a 14 Strength and an 18 isn't going to change the whole image of a character.&nbsp; The difference between a 14 Comeliness and an 18 can.Not really.&nbsp; Like I said, everything else has a concrete impact on mechanics and gameplay.&nbsp; Comeliness only impacts roleplaying (or, at best, a few marginal checks).Again, it boils down to image.&nbsp; I may not be able to assign my character's precise stats, but I'm going to hesitate about even playing in a game where I have no control over what he looks like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 888136, member: 1288"] Well (he said, hijacking the thread even further ;)), here's the question. Do you believe a character's physical beauty (or lack thereof) should have a [i]mechanical[/i] affect in the game? If you do not, a Comeliness score is more or less useless. Far better just to describe your character's overall attractiveness as part of the physical description. If Comeliness has no mechanical impact, does it really matter if I've got a 15 or a 16? If you think Comeliness [i]should[/i] have a mechanical effect (such as, perhaps, granting bonuses or penalties to certain types of skill rolls), then that opens up an entirely new avenue of questioning. See, if Comeliness has a mechanical affect then, for purposes of fairness and balance, players shouldn't be able to just choose. They should have to roll it, like they roll any other score. But if they have to roll it, aren't you, in essence, taking away the player's ability to create his own character? Of all the details to decide when making a character, general "image" is one of the most personal. Sure, some people like complete randomness, but most players I've met have a pretty solid idea of what they want their character to look and act like. The difference between a 14 Strength and an 18 isn't going to change the whole image of a character. The difference between a 14 Comeliness and an 18 can. Not really. Like I said, everything else has a concrete impact on mechanics and gameplay. Comeliness only impacts roleplaying (or, at best, a few marginal checks). Again, it boils down to image. I may not be able to assign my character's precise stats, but I'm going to hesitate about even playing in a game where I have no control over what he looks like. [/QUOTE]

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