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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 8182703"><p>Ah, ok, now I see what you are saying. You are right: there is a very slight difference in language here.</p><p></p><p>So let me change it: Each player says "I want to be shorter* than any other halfling in the world." There, now it is impossible for them both to have what they want, even though what each of them wants aligns with the traditional conception of what it means to be a halfling.</p><p></p><p>*Or "more dextrous", if you feel it has to be mechanics based.</p><p></p><p>The other problem here (which I suspect is part of what Morrus was getting at) is that this is a totally contrived scenario.</p><p></p><p>First, who lets players define their "concept" as "I am the most X in the world"? The rules certainly don't support any such thing. Sure, the player is free to decide that their character's goal is to achieve X, or that their character believes X to be true. But that's different from actually granting it.</p><p></p><p>Second, even if you were to allow that, for another player to then say, "Well <em>I</em> want to play a character whose very existence invalidates your character concept" isn't a problem with the rules, it's a problem with the people.</p><p></p><p>And, despite all that, the example of "more dextrous than any halfling in the world" demonstrates that whether or not the scenario is valid, it has nothing whatsoever to do with rules that allow races to break stereotype.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 8182703"] Ah, ok, now I see what you are saying. You are right: there is a very slight difference in language here. So let me change it: Each player says "I want to be shorter* than any other halfling in the world." There, now it is impossible for them both to have what they want, even though what each of them wants aligns with the traditional conception of what it means to be a halfling. *Or "more dextrous", if you feel it has to be mechanics based. The other problem here (which I suspect is part of what Morrus was getting at) is that this is a totally contrived scenario. First, who lets players define their "concept" as "I am the most X in the world"? The rules certainly don't support any such thing. Sure, the player is free to decide that their character's goal is to achieve X, or that their character believes X to be true. But that's different from actually granting it. Second, even if you were to allow that, for another player to then say, "Well [I]I[/I] want to play a character whose very existence invalidates your character concept" isn't a problem with the rules, it's a problem with the people. And, despite all that, the example of "more dextrous than any halfling in the world" demonstrates that whether or not the scenario is valid, it has nothing whatsoever to do with rules that allow races to break stereotype. [/QUOTE]
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