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<blockquote data-quote="Stefano Rinaldelli" data-source="post: 8183131" data-attributes="member: 6791994"><p>My 2 cents:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">describe ASI as Cultural is wrong, at least for <u>initial</u> STR, DEX and CON both in the game that out of it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">remove ASI related to race is not wrong nor right, it is simply remove genetic differences between races.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Definition of INT, WIS and CHA are problematic so it could be legitimate to avoid a suggested connection between them and genetics. But for DEX, STR and CON there is absolute evidence that genetic is involved, so why ignore it? It is a law of nature so why remove it? More, we are not talking about Afroamericans compared to white people, we are talking about generic Orcs compared to generic Halfling. It is extremely hard to me to accept that the medium halfling is as strong as the medium orc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Even with ASI, a single Orc can be weaker than a single Halfling. But in statistic terms this is only less probable. Where's the scandal? i don't know.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Negate this issues is so poorly justifiable in terms of real world knowledge and common sense and request a much bigger effort in terms of suspension of disbelief, that appears clear the political aspect of this choice.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If there were scientific or philosophical reason, we have seen the same choice in all the monster manual: dragons that cannot bite even if their teeth are 2 meters long, creatures with long fangs deprived of their claw attack as orc that are not stronger than human even if depicted as muscled and 2 meters tall.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">For me is clear that WOTC feels embarassed for the presence of the word RACE in the game, and knowing that remove it could be too difficult, is trying to empty it of meaning by eliminating all the implications it could have in game mechanics in terms of differentiation between characters.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Do it for political reason, well, for my intelligence it is offensive , but this is a personal feel that I can easily cope with, don't pretend to be the same for all.</li> </ul><p></p><p>So conclusion: I don't like political choices in a game. If this choices end up in create paradoxical situation that make it more difficult to suspend my disbelief, this upsets me and the game (as it is) is less enjoyable.</p><p>Sure I can house rule it. I can house rule as far as I want, at least to the point where is easier to change game at all.</p><p></p><p>I hope I haven't broken any forum rules with this post.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stefano Rinaldelli, post: 8183131, member: 6791994"] My 2 cents: [LIST] [*]describe ASI as Cultural is wrong, at least for [U]initial[/U] STR, DEX and CON both in the game that out of it. [*]remove ASI related to race is not wrong nor right, it is simply remove genetic differences between races. [*]Definition of INT, WIS and CHA are problematic so it could be legitimate to avoid a suggested connection between them and genetics. But for DEX, STR and CON there is absolute evidence that genetic is involved, so why ignore it? It is a law of nature so why remove it? More, we are not talking about Afroamericans compared to white people, we are talking about generic Orcs compared to generic Halfling. It is extremely hard to me to accept that the medium halfling is as strong as the medium orc. [*]Even with ASI, a single Orc can be weaker than a single Halfling. But in statistic terms this is only less probable. Where's the scandal? i don't know. [*]Negate this issues is so poorly justifiable in terms of real world knowledge and common sense and request a much bigger effort in terms of suspension of disbelief, that appears clear the political aspect of this choice. [*]If there were scientific or philosophical reason, we have seen the same choice in all the monster manual: dragons that cannot bite even if their teeth are 2 meters long, creatures with long fangs deprived of their claw attack as orc that are not stronger than human even if depicted as muscled and 2 meters tall. [*]For me is clear that WOTC feels embarassed for the presence of the word RACE in the game, and knowing that remove it could be too difficult, is trying to empty it of meaning by eliminating all the implications it could have in game mechanics in terms of differentiation between characters. [*]Do it for political reason, well, for my intelligence it is offensive , but this is a personal feel that I can easily cope with, don't pretend to be the same for all. [/LIST] So conclusion: I don't like political choices in a game. If this choices end up in create paradoxical situation that make it more difficult to suspend my disbelief, this upsets me and the game (as it is) is less enjoyable. Sure I can house rule it. I can house rule as far as I want, at least to the point where is easier to change game at all. I hope I haven't broken any forum rules with this post. [/QUOTE]
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