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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8183758" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Yup.</p><p></p><p>"Among the playable races in my world, goliaths are the strongest."</p><p></p><p>First, Goliath is far from the only +2 Strength race in the game. The PHB alone has Mountain Dwarves, Dragonborn, and Half-Orcs, and additional races with +2 Strength include Centaur, Githyanki, Longtooth Shifters, Bugbears, Orcs, Tortles, and Minotaurs. Secondly, considering the difference between a 17 (15+2) and 16 (15+1) is minimal (same +3 mod) you can add +1 Strength races and include Tritons, Duergar, Beasthide Shifters, Leonin, Earth Genasi, Fallen Aasimar, Firbolg, and Zariel-lineage Tieflings. Oh, and normal boring humans. And let's not get into races which already come with a floating bonus, like variant Human, Half-elf, Warforged, Changeling, Simic Hybrid, and Custom Lineage. If we model "strongest" based on having a bonus to Strength score, the Goliath has a lot of competition.</p><p></p><p>Even if you want to argue that Powerful Build makes them stronger than the average 16/17 starting strength, you still have firbolgs, centaurs, orcs and bugbears who have that (or equivalent) trait. Goliath is still doesn't stand out in the crowd.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, When you already have the same strength as a lanky gith or a stocky dwarf, does it REALLY matter if you can be matched by a halfling? Maybe there should be a different consideration than an ability score modifier when determining "strongest"?</p><p></p><p>Or Put another way...</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]131934[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 8183758, member: 7635"] Yup. "Among the playable races in my world, goliaths are the strongest." First, Goliath is far from the only +2 Strength race in the game. The PHB alone has Mountain Dwarves, Dragonborn, and Half-Orcs, and additional races with +2 Strength include Centaur, Githyanki, Longtooth Shifters, Bugbears, Orcs, Tortles, and Minotaurs. Secondly, considering the difference between a 17 (15+2) and 16 (15+1) is minimal (same +3 mod) you can add +1 Strength races and include Tritons, Duergar, Beasthide Shifters, Leonin, Earth Genasi, Fallen Aasimar, Firbolg, and Zariel-lineage Tieflings. Oh, and normal boring humans. And let's not get into races which already come with a floating bonus, like variant Human, Half-elf, Warforged, Changeling, Simic Hybrid, and Custom Lineage. If we model "strongest" based on having a bonus to Strength score, the Goliath has a lot of competition. Even if you want to argue that Powerful Build makes them stronger than the average 16/17 starting strength, you still have firbolgs, centaurs, orcs and bugbears who have that (or equivalent) trait. Goliath is still doesn't stand out in the crowd. Ultimately, When you already have the same strength as a lanky gith or a stocky dwarf, does it REALLY matter if you can be matched by a halfling? Maybe there should be a different consideration than an ability score modifier when determining "strongest"? Or Put another way... [ATTACH type="full" width="472px" alt="same race.jpg"]131934[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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