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<blockquote data-quote="Scribe" data-source="post: 8184285" data-attributes="member: 6807152"><p>Lets not dance around the various associations. We all know what they are, and it will just get the thread locked out.</p><p></p><p>I find the 'orc's being evil is racist' absolutely comical, I've been reading fantasy since I was a child, and the whole point is there is Good (tm) and there is Evil (tm) and yes that gets applied at a racial level within the fantasy framework. It does NOT get applied to the real world, by anyone with a working brain.</p><p></p><p>Heck, was this not a Drizzt arc?</p><p></p><p>It's not relevant to the discussion of racial ASI, game mechanics, and class combinations.</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I dont think anyone is arguing that we absolutely must have ASI tied to race.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I dont think anyone is arguing that today's systems cannot be updated and improved.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I do believe, that there should be distinctions at a mechanical (if not ASI) level, as that is a core component of a fantasy world. There are biological differences between the races, which IMO should be mechanically represented in some fashion.</li> </ol><p></p><p>Currently, D&D does a fairly poor job of that. If they are going to go with the Tasha's system, then I expect them to improve on making the various player species, distinct in ways that go beyond 'i want to look like a dragon' or 'i want to be dressed up in a devil costume'.</p><p></p><p>I want some crunch at the racial level, that is meaningful. Others dont. Thats fine, but I do believe a middle ground can be reached.</p><p></p><p>Then again, is Wizards on this forum? Do they even care that we are near 60 pages in on this? I doubt that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scribe, post: 8184285, member: 6807152"] Lets not dance around the various associations. We all know what they are, and it will just get the thread locked out. I find the 'orc's being evil is racist' absolutely comical, I've been reading fantasy since I was a child, and the whole point is there is Good (tm) and there is Evil (tm) and yes that gets applied at a racial level within the fantasy framework. It does NOT get applied to the real world, by anyone with a working brain. Heck, was this not a Drizzt arc? It's not relevant to the discussion of racial ASI, game mechanics, and class combinations. [LIST=1] [*]I dont think anyone is arguing that we absolutely must have ASI tied to race. [*]I dont think anyone is arguing that today's systems cannot be updated and improved. [*]I do believe, that there should be distinctions at a mechanical (if not ASI) level, as that is a core component of a fantasy world. There are biological differences between the races, which IMO should be mechanically represented in some fashion. [/LIST] Currently, D&D does a fairly poor job of that. If they are going to go with the Tasha's system, then I expect them to improve on making the various player species, distinct in ways that go beyond 'i want to look like a dragon' or 'i want to be dressed up in a devil costume'. I want some crunch at the racial level, that is meaningful. Others dont. Thats fine, but I do believe a middle ground can be reached. Then again, is Wizards on this forum? Do they even care that we are near 60 pages in on this? I doubt that. :eek: [/QUOTE]
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