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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8190215" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>See, it always bothers me to go to the mice vs elephant debate. It is such an extreme example, no one could ever argue that a 0.68 pz mouse can move as much as a 13,000 lbs elephant. </p><p></p><p>Or we go to the classic 3 ft halfling compared to the 6.5 ft Goliath. </p><p></p><p>But, this debate doesn't just have those two. It isn't just halflings and Goliaths, so let's look at some other examples. </p><p></p><p>Why is a 5.5 ft 190 lb Orc just as strong as a 6.5 ft 225 lb Goliath? The goliath is a full foot and over 30 lbs bigger than the orc, clearly the Goliath should be stronger right? In fact, why is that same orc, at 5.5 ft and 190 lbs <strong>stronger </strong>than the 6.5 ft 215 lb Firbolg? </p><p></p><p>Why is there no difference in strength between a 5 ft 140 lbs lizardfolk, the 4.5 ft 100 lb High Elf, and the 3 ft 40 lb halfling? Surely the Ilizardfolk should be the strongest of the three, followed by the Elf, then the halfling right? </p><p></p><p>And yet, none of these differences actually matter, do they? We don't really care that despite being bigger, Lizardfolk aren't stronger than Elves. </p><p></p><p>Also, there is a fact that occasionally gets bandied about when we reach a certain point of these discussions. One I think really highlights the truly small number that these bonuses actually mean in the real world. The average difference between men and women in upper body strength is 40%. The average difference as written in the PHB between a 40 lb halfling and a 225 lb goliath is 5%. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And also, this conversation focuses on strength, because it is easier to throw those numbers down, isn't it absurd to make a halfling as strong as a Goliath!</p><p></p><p>But you know what the PHB does that you haven't found absurd? The Halfling with their 40 lbs is just as tough as the Goliath, both have a +1 Con. </p><p></p><p>And who should be tougher, more resistant to disease and have a better endurance? The Elf, the Gnome or the Kenku? </p><p></p><p>Why are Goblins and Kobolds as graceful and lithe as the Elves, all three have +2 Dex? </p><p></p><p>And then we get to the mental scores. How would we like to define who is more charismatic? Or who has more wisdom? How do we even measure those things biologically?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8190215, member: 6801228"] See, it always bothers me to go to the mice vs elephant debate. It is such an extreme example, no one could ever argue that a 0.68 pz mouse can move as much as a 13,000 lbs elephant. Or we go to the classic 3 ft halfling compared to the 6.5 ft Goliath. But, this debate doesn't just have those two. It isn't just halflings and Goliaths, so let's look at some other examples. Why is a 5.5 ft 190 lb Orc just as strong as a 6.5 ft 225 lb Goliath? The goliath is a full foot and over 30 lbs bigger than the orc, clearly the Goliath should be stronger right? In fact, why is that same orc, at 5.5 ft and 190 lbs [B]stronger [/B]than the 6.5 ft 215 lb Firbolg? Why is there no difference in strength between a 5 ft 140 lbs lizardfolk, the 4.5 ft 100 lb High Elf, and the 3 ft 40 lb halfling? Surely the Ilizardfolk should be the strongest of the three, followed by the Elf, then the halfling right? And yet, none of these differences actually matter, do they? We don't really care that despite being bigger, Lizardfolk aren't stronger than Elves. Also, there is a fact that occasionally gets bandied about when we reach a certain point of these discussions. One I think really highlights the truly small number that these bonuses actually mean in the real world. The average difference between men and women in upper body strength is 40%. The average difference as written in the PHB between a 40 lb halfling and a 225 lb goliath is 5%. And also, this conversation focuses on strength, because it is easier to throw those numbers down, isn't it absurd to make a halfling as strong as a Goliath! But you know what the PHB does that you haven't found absurd? The Halfling with their 40 lbs is just as tough as the Goliath, both have a +1 Con. And who should be tougher, more resistant to disease and have a better endurance? The Elf, the Gnome or the Kenku? Why are Goblins and Kobolds as graceful and lithe as the Elves, all three have +2 Dex? And then we get to the mental scores. How would we like to define who is more charismatic? Or who has more wisdom? How do we even measure those things biologically? [/QUOTE]
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