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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8196816" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Sure, it's extraordinary. And? Why not let the stat be a 16?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Any rule that prohibits increasing Strength is also going to prohibit increasing every other stat as well. Unless you want to make it a rule that you can put that ASI in any stat <em>except </em>Strength?</p><p></p><p>And yes, Strength does have an actual measurement associated with it--most specifically, carrying capacity. <em>Not </em>damage, because a high-Dex halfling with a short sword inflicts as much damage as a high-Strength goliath with a short sword and nobody cares about that; it's considered precision with the halfling and force with the goliath. However: goliaths and other big races have Powerful Build, which lets them lift more than a halfling anyway. </p><p></p><p>And do most DMs <em>really </em>require their PCs to count up every pound they are carrying? Most of the time, carrying capacity is abstracted and only matters if the PC is trying to perform a singular feat of strength, like lifting a fallen boulder off the trap door, which most of the time, that would be an Athletics check (and goliaths are auto-proficient in Athletics).</p><p></p><p><em>And </em>it would be perfectly legal for the DM to say "sure, Bobbo, you can try to lift the boulder, but it's physically larger than you so you're going to have disadvantage on your check."</p><p></p><p>(Unless Bobbo's player said that they wanted to <em>roll </em>the boulder out of the way, or improvise a lever. Those would also be Strength-based, but they aren't lifting.)</p><p></p><p>And let's face it: there's a trope we all know of the big burly fighter failing to perform a feat of strength because of a poor roll, but the weedy little mage manages to pull it off because of a good roll. </p><p></p><p></p><p><em>You </em>can't seem to imagine a halfling with a Strength of 16. <em>That's </em>what I'm talking about.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. </p><p></p><p>And again, I hardly think that saying "my character worked hard to be where they are, therefore, it makes sense that they focused on this one stat that's needed for their class. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not going to go through a hundred pages of thread, but I <em>will </em>point out that Scribe has said that they prefer racial caps and racial penalties to stats, and have even gone so far as to suggest that they might play something other than D&D rather than allow floating ASIs. At least, that's what I got out of some of their posts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8196816, member: 6915329"] Sure, it's extraordinary. And? Why not let the stat be a 16? Any rule that prohibits increasing Strength is also going to prohibit increasing every other stat as well. Unless you want to make it a rule that you can put that ASI in any stat [I]except [/I]Strength? And yes, Strength does have an actual measurement associated with it--most specifically, carrying capacity. [I]Not [/I]damage, because a high-Dex halfling with a short sword inflicts as much damage as a high-Strength goliath with a short sword and nobody cares about that; it's considered precision with the halfling and force with the goliath. However: goliaths and other big races have Powerful Build, which lets them lift more than a halfling anyway. And do most DMs [I]really [/I]require their PCs to count up every pound they are carrying? Most of the time, carrying capacity is abstracted and only matters if the PC is trying to perform a singular feat of strength, like lifting a fallen boulder off the trap door, which most of the time, that would be an Athletics check (and goliaths are auto-proficient in Athletics). [I]And [/I]it would be perfectly legal for the DM to say "sure, Bobbo, you can try to lift the boulder, but it's physically larger than you so you're going to have disadvantage on your check." (Unless Bobbo's player said that they wanted to [I]roll [/I]the boulder out of the way, or improvise a lever. Those would also be Strength-based, but they aren't lifting.) And let's face it: there's a trope we all know of the big burly fighter failing to perform a feat of strength because of a poor roll, but the weedy little mage manages to pull it off because of a good roll. [I]You [/I]can't seem to imagine a halfling with a Strength of 16. [I]That's [/I]what I'm talking about. Nope. And again, I hardly think that saying "my character worked hard to be where they are, therefore, it makes sense that they focused on this one stat that's needed for their class. I am not going to go through a hundred pages of thread, but I [I]will [/I]point out that Scribe has said that they prefer racial caps and racial penalties to stats, and have even gone so far as to suggest that they might play something other than D&D rather than allow floating ASIs. At least, that's what I got out of some of their posts. [/QUOTE]
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