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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8197567" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Sure, and I agree with that, but you attacked my position demanding to know if I was arguing that there was nothing unfortunate about your friend having a harder time when a sidebar would solve all of his problems. If the entire issue is the potential issue of the sidebar, well, I have never once argued that the sidebar shouldn't exist. It might, but the other side has repeatedly demanded to know why we won't change the rules when a simple sidebar that might exist would solve the issue. It seems like you are holding it up as a reasonable compromise that we are refusing, when most of us are not refusing the sidebar, we just can't predict the future.Don't care about the questions, because the V. Human not having default recommendations was my point. They never did. So your friend struggled to play interesting human characters right? If that hasn't been a problem worth demanding static ASIs for... heck since 3rd edition? Why is it a problem if a few races/lineages are released now that also don't have static ASIs? Humans were designed that way, why can't other racial options be designed that way? You can't even say that it is a human unique niche and should be protected, because ASIs have never been a niche. There are like 9 of the 30 races that have a +2/+1 str/con. If they can double up their identity, so can humans.Sure, again, I hope you guys get your side bar. But this isn't an argument that really moves me, that they want the option to make subpar characters without thinking about it. I'm sorry, character creation takes thought for me, I invest a lot of thought into it. And again, this only means that the new couple of lineages being released will not be for him. There are still plenty of options that he won't have to think about when using.</blockquote>

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