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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8197894" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I do feel for him a little bit, but this seems like such a strange thing to complain about. Again, Variant humans have always been this way, and "I'd prefer not to think about where to put my stats" is... almost aggressively trying not to think about your character.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've stated my support for it multiple times.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Variant Humans still get a bonus skill and a bonus Feat. That is still incredibly useful. </p><p></p><p>And again, Orcs, Half-Orcs, Minotaurs, Goliaths, and a few others are all +2 strength +1 Con, so another race with "no defaults" isn't exactly going to hurt humans if "strong and tough" didn't hurt all of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've really never seen anyone actually play a Basic Human. Everyone goes Variant. But that is my point, if he were to go human, he would go with a different way of reaching what he wants. All of these future lineages are just basically variant humans. So any problem playing one would be the same type of issues you would already have</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But here is the thing. What if all lineages going forward are clearly unusual? </p><p></p><p>This is my problem with the outcry coming out. The ones we have clearly make sense under this design, so why are we assuming that the others will also not make sense under this design? There seems to be an asusmption that we will get elves and halflings, which we have no evidence that that will be how it works.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8197894, member: 6801228"] I do feel for him a little bit, but this seems like such a strange thing to complain about. Again, Variant humans have always been this way, and "I'd prefer not to think about where to put my stats" is... almost aggressively trying not to think about your character. I've stated my support for it multiple times. Variant Humans still get a bonus skill and a bonus Feat. That is still incredibly useful. And again, Orcs, Half-Orcs, Minotaurs, Goliaths, and a few others are all +2 strength +1 Con, so another race with "no defaults" isn't exactly going to hurt humans if "strong and tough" didn't hurt all of them. I've really never seen anyone actually play a Basic Human. Everyone goes Variant. But that is my point, if he were to go human, he would go with a different way of reaching what he wants. All of these future lineages are just basically variant humans. So any problem playing one would be the same type of issues you would already have But here is the thing. What if all lineages going forward are clearly unusual? This is my problem with the outcry coming out. The ones we have clearly make sense under this design, so why are we assuming that the others will also not make sense under this design? There seems to be an asusmption that we will get elves and halflings, which we have no evidence that that will be how it works. [/QUOTE]
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